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RE: Avoid UBK
« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2011, 01:20:26 PM »
Quote from: 'VIE_JesseJames' pid='392522' dateline='1306628793'

Hello, I have seen some blogs here in the past and wanted to chime
in with a couple things.

1) Clyde Barrow does not cheat; has never cheated.  He lives in
New Zealand, so his internet is not the best, but I have not seen him
glitch and I play with this guy pretty much daily.  Anyone who says
he cheats only says so because they cannot beat him.  He is nearing
the #1 ranking in hard core shootouts and he will get there.  He is the
best casual player I've ever seen.

There are very few people that can hang with him, but the few that
I've seen that can rival him, I've been told they have lag switches:

Orphan 22 (I think he's ubk now)
Cowboy_is_Back (unborn killa 2)
Orphan29 (ngsc4400)

I personally wouldn't know, but Les Clay told me so and I don't
know how he knows.

Even with these cheaters trying to beat clyde, they rarely do.

That said, I want to share a rather long-winded story.  I guess you
could say this is months in the making and I need to get this all off
my chest.

xUBKx-BoSs (aka BuGz-Da-Dunn, aka UnbornKillaz-1) is the leader
of an occult named the Unborn Killaz.  

I used to be friends with him, but this guy is worse than Kathy
Lee Gifford.  Talk about gossip, I swear this guy could start his
own red dead redemption talk show.

He cannot ever stop complaining about others and it got to the point
where I had to simply block this guy to relieve my stress from his
constant negative energy.

Let me skip back to the start a bit so you're not completely in the
dark.

I have been playing red dead redemption since June of 2010.  
In that time I have made many friends.  I joined the orphan clan,
but they were breaking up and rob (orphan 3) left the game (I
heard he temporarily snapped.... breakdown).  Then when he
came back, he joined the unborn killaz.  

I suggested to my friend FaizaanM26 ((aka clyde barrow) who
got me into the orphans) that we create out own clan and with
the help of a 3rd friend (Belle Starr), The Vigilantes were formed.

Since that time I've found that many people hate us simply because
we are a rival clan. But the thing is we preach that our clan respect
each other and respect your opponent.  We do not stand for our clan
to bad mouth others and we've kicked out B_BLEEZY and others for
being totally rude and disrespectful to others.  

We have tried to get along with others, and for the most part in
matches, we keep to ourselves.

But what I want everyone to know is that now that unborn killaz are
creeping back into the game after the outage, their attitude has not
changed, in fact got worse.  

xUnBoRnKillaz-1 is Bugz da Dunn... founder of UBK.  
Before he outage they were all numbers and letters.
(such as xUnBoRnKiLLaZ-1)
They must have lost passwords or something
because they're now creating new names.  
I hope that means all their old accounts are
history so now we can pass them on leaderboards :)
An yway, now they are all putting names (probably copying us)
So now ubk1 is xUbKx-BoSs.
Derf 11 is now ubk derf
saudi 85 is now ubk saudi85
they have first lady, boss lady (I feel sorry for her), and
many others in their clan.

They are not friendly people.
Derf came to me as a messenger asking for a vie vs ubk
clan match, but ubk1 is not a friend and it will not be
friendly because they do not know how to have fun.

ubk1 runs his clan like a cult.  It is sad that any people
follow this guy.  Their website looks like a trashy dating
service and everything about them reflects their horrible
leadership.

Tonight I played vs saudi and n1_cisco
They were on our team in gang matches and
killing their own teammates.

Then cisco messages me and talked crap about
our clan.  This is a guy who knows nothing about me
or my clan because he's never spoken with any of
us personally.  So where did he get his pre-conceived
opinions about us?  Brainwashed, obviously by his
leader.  See how sad it is?  These people are so
stupid that they cannot even think for themselves.
They cannot talk to us or say, "how are you?".  
They just automatically hate us having never said
a word.  

Red Dead redemption needs a daycare.

Anyway, this is typical behavior of the unborn
killaz.  They do not respect anyone, no matter
what.  They hate people that they do not even
know.  

Why I am telling you this is simply to warn you.  
My experiences with them are first-hand and
ongoing for almost the whole time I've been
playing the game.  

I personally find it hard to enjoy the game anymore
when they are around.

It is unfortunate that such a great game can have such
a dark cloud looming over it.  So while you may laugh at
this long-winded tirade, I am only here to tell you that
you should avoid these people.  I would recommend you
enjoy the game on your own and keep to yourself, but
if you like multiplayer and want to be with a group, then
you should be with people who can actually have some fun.

The widowmakers recently broke apart and they joined our
clan.  Why?  They like us and hate ubk too.  Isn't that ironic?

Nobody I talk to likes ubk-BoSs.  nobody.  We have people
join our clan because of their bad experiences with him.

Funny thing is the people who say crap about us are:

1) the people who can't beat us, or
2) the people we've kicked out (for bad attitude) or
    friends of theirs.

Go figure.  Clyde Barrow, Billy the Kid, and many others in
our clan have not ever said one bad word about anyone.
They are great guys.  But you wouldn't know it with all
the crap UBK says about him.  One day we kicking the
crap out of the ubk's and they beat us once in a close
game.  Then a guy on mic said, I bet they turn on their
glitch switches now.

I laughed and told ubk1 that he has to stop brainwashing
his clan.

I mean,

1) we don't have any such switch, and
2) if a switch did exist, why would we turn it off for
    one game just to let them win?

Obviously the guy has no idea what he's talking about.  I mean
really, what a moronic thing to say.  But he only said it because
his leader tells all his clan that we cheat and he only says that
because he cannot beat us.

Alright, well, I'll conclude this book now.

Bottom line is, if you want to be a part of a group and have
fun, look for VIE's and befriend us.  We'll show you our
website.  We're nearing 40 members now and we've got
girls and guys alike.  Belle formed the VIE-gina's... our
vigilante sisterhood and they're not concerned with skillset
so much as people they can talk to and get along with.

I'm sorry for the length and I'm sorry that we all have to
endure such trash as the unborn killaz, but there are
worst tragedies in the world.  Just ignore them.


What you just said...
Are YOU ready for the WAR!!

War...War never changes.



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RE: Avoid UBK
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2011, 01:47:23 PM »
I've still never seen any of these players, except for a few of the VIE people from time to time. There must be an parallel universe on PSN and only certain players can cross from one side to the other. ClydeBarrow is a good player but its hard to tell just how good with his crappy connection.

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Re: RE: Avoid UBK
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2016, 12:34:01 AM »
lol  I've seen that djessejames in hardcore and I think stronghold. 
He's better than me in hardcore, but tha'ts not saying much.

I remember Zaitsev777 I think his name is asked me if I was
djessejames. 

In casual, I'll chew him up and spit him out.

lol

and second of all, if you read my posts a little more carefully, you
will see I did not accuse anyone of cheating.  Maybe I need to
reread what I wrote, but I quoted les clay who told me he
believes bleezy, saudi, orphans, and some others cheat.

So it's secondhand news and I also told everyone that rockstar
told me they've installed patches to combat people with lag
switches... thus deeming them ineffective, but I have never
tried to hook up a switch myself, so I cannot attest to the accuracy
of their statement.  They may just be trying to console me.

As far as you not knowing me or my clan, I have to believe you do
not play the game much, or there are different servers or something
Maybe all you do is legends and killers or stronghold.  But we all
know everyone.  I cannot believe you have not seen clyde, sundance,
unborn killers, especially.  Every single day I am on and have been on
every single day for nearly a year and many of the guys I speak of have
had the game since day 1... so if you dont' know any of us then I do not
know what to tell you except that you haven't been playing long, or
you do not do what we do...

but the players I speak of many go by multiple names ... their original
and clan name.... for example blacksubstance is VIE_SundanceKid ...

and most everyone I speak of are very experienced casual gamers
and most all of them are on the leaderboards... so if you do not know
who people like saudix85, sgt.margera, tico tico, or other guys in clans,
then you do not play the same red dead redemption game I do. 

seriously. 

how can you not know any of us is what I want to know.

That's not arrogance, it's just the truth.  we are on every day.



Quote from: 'The_BIG_Ern' pid='392607' dateline='1306641353'
Ok.

First of all, there is a whole bunch of guys that play the game that could argue your point.  I for one have never heard of you or most of the people youre talking about so whats that mean?  It means that the RDR world is a little bigger than your backyard and you guys arent the best ever to run around the prairies. 

Now, maybe Clyde is that good.  Ive never played him, but I'll take your word for it.  OK?  But other than that point that you strongly voiced here you also mentioned that the guys in that other clan, and people here, accuse him of cheating.  And mainly because they get beat by him and get all butt hurt and start throwing the C word around.  You are doing the same thing in this thread.  How does that make you look if youre defending him against cheating and at the same time accusing other people of it?

Some advice.  Maybe start worrying about yourself and how good you are and you might have a better time with things.  Its just a game but you are turning it into a soap opera.

Besides, youre not even the real Jesse James.  The real Jesse James has a D in front of it.  :crown:

So it sounds that you're of the opinion clyde cheats, but you're trying
to be politically correct as to avoid making a blunt accusation.

What I know is that B_Bleezy and Saudix85 lag so much, that I am
convinced it is much more than the game server occasionally acting
up.  There are times when I can clean their clocks and I think maybe
that happens when they are not using their lag switch.  Then other
times I see them leaning as they run at me... I'm shooting them in the face and all the sudden they're friggen 10 feet behind me blowing me away with a shotgun or something.  That is my impression of what a lag switch does; it causes an extreme lag for a few moments, thus giving the
perception that the server is glitching, when in fact the player is seeing
something totally different than you.

What you describe of clyde is not behavior I've known associated
with a lag switch.  What you describe is someone who cannot rip
off a clean headshot on clyde. 

But maybe there's some truth to his overseas connection causing
fits for some people.  But as I said, I'm a world away from him on the
other side of the map and I play with him nearly daily... and I do not
see any of those glitches.   When it takes me 2 clips to kill him and he
don't die, it's my inaccuracy, not some glitch. 

Also, when say you see that you hit him in the face and he doesn't
die, well, I see that everyday with hoards of people.  I'll see craters
in peoples faces after I die and I wonder, is that a glitch?  should they
be dead?  Was I too far away and my bullet just sheared the skin
right off their face without penetrating the brain?  Is it possible?

Well, I don't know.  The teeth are still intact.  lol

So whatever. 

If you watch VIE_SundanceKid, you will probably call him a cheater
too.  But what I've seen in him is that he seems to have taken a page
out of Clyde's book... he's ducking, turning, rolling, and making it
extremely hard to get a clean headshot.  During the outage, he was
playing a lot of xbox and it seems to have helped him not only stay
sharp, but improve quite a bit.... and clyde's done so much hardcore,
that he'll now utilize those skills in casual... people camping, trick-
shooting, etc, clyde will take 'em down without hesitation.

That's not cheating or lagging, it's just plain good, and you don't seem
to deny that, but you seem to have a problem with the fact that you
cannot kill him... it takes you a lot of shots.  Well, it does for most
people because face to face, nobody can beat him... clyde's faster, and
that means the only time you can kill him is when he's already been
shot and he doesn't see you, thus you get a cheap kill.

but as I said, come play with us consistently... I have ripped off plenty
of kills.  We go practice amongst ourselves a lot... just 2 or 3 of us.

it's fun, and I've become a better player because of him and I've also
come to grips with the fact that no matter how much I play, I'll
probably never be on his level.  He's just way more savvy, and just
plain quicker on his feet... he has no fear and plays more aggressive,
yet controlled, than anyone I know.  So

and lastly,maybe I said above, but clyde and sundance have been
playing this game for over a year... I think since it came out.  Maybe
if everyone had put in the time they have, they'd be as good. 
blacksubstance is top 10 in casual shootouts and you don't get to
a spot like that overnight.  for a long time, he would play 8+ hours
a day... unless he's on vacation, he doesn't miss a day.  and I think
his vie account is ranked too.  if clyde had only ever creatd just one
name and stuck with it, I'm certain he would be above saudi and
tj mafia jumpman and margera in every statistical category... he has
spanked margera and saudi is breakfast for him.  TJ I wish would
comeback, he's the only one I saw that was on clyde's level, but he
always ran from clyde b/c he wanted to boost his rank and not have
losses on the leaderboard.

okay.  I'll end my boredom ... going to hit the gym and play a lil more
RDR before I crash out.

and those of you reading this who don't know us, please, add us as
friends and come play.  We're on daily.  Clyde's new zealand time
and I'm west coast, and blackS is russia, so check worldtimezone.com
if you're unsure.

later.




Quote from: 'MrYoungGun' pid='392611' dateline='1306642198'
@JJ- I feel you have come here to defend a friend of yours against possible allegations of cheating, when in your oppinion, he is the best player in the game and not a cheat. That is fine, and yes that is what these message boards are for- RDR discussion. But you can't just tell everyone that what they experienced when they were playing against him was just their imagination and they're just jealous of his superior skill. You are entitiled to your oppinion as are the other members here, and you need only pay attention to the thoughts of whomever you see fit.
I will make it crystal clear for you my experience playing against VIE_ClydeBarrow so there is no misunderstanding about what has been said. I watched him win 6 or 7 HCFFA matches in a row that I took part in, finishing 2nd or 3rd in all of them. Clyde moves erratically (running, rolling, jumping) around the map as he places very well aimed shots at his targets. He does not spend much time behind cover and brazenly challenges any nearby opponent to a 1 on 1, often in the middle of the action. Every time I shot Clyde, he did not die unless I shot him 4 or 5 times myself, I bloodied his face with headshots that did not kill him a few times.
What I noticed (and a friend of mine playing as well did also) is that he would take more shots to kill than the other players in the session. His character shrugged off close range shotgun blasts, deadeye headshots, and occasional mid range dynamite explosions. That struck me as wierd, but not totally unseen before. As I said in another thread, some players just seem superhuman, and take more punishment than most. I don't think that takes anything away from his excellent skill, he showed me plenty with his aiming ability. I have played in matches against you as well, you use the grandma character if I remember correctly, and are a good player as well.

I don't mean to say we know "everyone", but you get the gist.  I mean, we've just been doing this a long time and most anyone who's in a clan, we know or have played against... and anyone whose put in their time should know most the people I mention.   There are names that cross my path that I haven't heard of... of course... but many times they're guys who've been in a clan for quite some time, so I know them as RoyalLegend_King or something, not their prior name... I didn't get this game from day 1, so many people were in clans before I ever knew them... and for the longest time, I was oblivious to all that... I was fully legend with "pinktoad" before I ever stepped foot in casual games.   I sucked at gaming.  And I knew nobody. But now I sort of have to make it my business to know anyone who's somebody.  lol. 

Lol Clyde Barrow, I don't even remember that guy, must not have been too good. Lol I asked Jumpman about him, he said he didn't remember him either. I can GUARANTEE u he wouldn't f with Jumpman. He used to DESTROY the best players on this game with ease. He stomped the #1 normal player on normal. The majority of GREAT players left this game within a year Jumpman included, they all left as soon as the servers became unplayable around a year or so after release, Rockstar needs to keep foreign players on their own servers.

Lmao I asked Jumpman if he backed out of games to avoid anyone he laughed and said he never backed out of a game even when he joined late. I personally watched him drop a 50-0 game and the stats didn't record it. He would routinely drop 50 on anyone. Lol ask Margera's lagging ass, FernandoKing, the RoyalLegends, Orphans, Madden, Mouse, 7deadly sins, all the true greats who the GOAT is and they won't say Clyde Barrow lmao. He used to abuse the top players, especially on a legit map, Armadillo, Tumbleweed or McFarlane's ranch.

I wasn't too shabby either lol, 10 kd on RDR, 50 on GTA4. Legend in my own right

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Re: Avoid UBK
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2016, 12:39:44 AM »
Lol Clyde Barrow, I don't even remember that guy, must not have been too good. Lol I asked Jumpman about him, he said he didn't remember him either. I can GUARANTEE u he wouldn't f with Jumpman. He used to DESTROY the best players on this game with ease. He stomped the #1 normal player on normal. The majority of GREAT players left this game within a year Jumpman included, they all left as soon as the servers became unplayable around a year or so after release, Rockstar needs to keep foreign players on their own servers.

Lmao I asked Jumpman if he backed out of games to avoid anyone he laughed and said he never backed out of a game even when he joined late. I personally watched him drop a 50-0 game and the stats didn't record it. He would routinely drop 50 on anyone. Lol ask Margera's lagging ass, FernandoKing, the RoyalLegends, Orphans, Madden, Mouse, 7deadly sins, all the true greats who the GOAT is and they won't say Clyde Barrow lmao. He used to abuse the top players, especially on a legit map, Armadillo, Tumbleweed or McFarlane's ranch.

I wasn't too shabby either lol, 10 kd on RDR, 50 on GTA4. Legend in my own right

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Re: Avoid UBK
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2016, 09:59:10 AM »
Ozymandias
By Percy Bysshe Shelley

I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

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Re: Avoid UBK
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2016, 01:50:44 PM »
This dude bumped a 5 year old thread cause it hurt his feelings hahahaha.

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Re: Avoid UBK
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2016, 04:56:35 PM »
Time to play Guess the Mental Disorder!

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Re: Avoid UBK
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2016, 05:10:14 PM »
I wasn't too shabby either lol, 10 kd on RDR, 50 on GTA4. Legend in my own right

You go girl!

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Re: Avoid UBK
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2016, 01:07:16 AM »
Hey TO81_SP33_BS20, who are you?  You act like you were some respected pioneer who left after the first year, but here's the thing.  Clyde played RDR from day 1 of it's release, which was May of 2010.  I got the game as a gift in June, and did single player and free roam for months.  I'd say it was maybe August or september when I first got into multiplayer.   Clyde was not clyde.   He was Faizaan and TJ Mafia Jumpman should know him.   Maybe you say TJ didn't run, but there were matches that he was behind in that he left.   There was one match in particular where clyde joined a minute or two late and he almost came back and beat Mafia.  I never saw clyde lose to him other than the time he joined a match late.   I've only seen Clyde lose shootouts a couple times.  One was another time he joined late and passed the leader, but lost the lead when he died in the last 30 seconds.   Another time he lost to a fellow vie.

I have to figure out the time line, but I thought it was sometime around the end of 2010 when Clyde joined the orphans, then we had a chat with Rob (orphan 3 and 18 and later a UBK) who said the orphans were breaking up for some shady stuff.   Soon thereafter the website was taken down, so we decided to form our own clan.  If I'm not mistaken, that was around Jan of 2011, so if I'm right, then all that happened within the first year of the game, when you claim to still be playing.

FaizaanM26 turned into Orphan_FortyTwo and then VIE_ClydeBarrow, and that's still his account to this day.

I don't care what people say, I have been his friend for years and if he were a cheater, he wouldn't have been in our clan.  If he lagged, it could have been because of poor internet, but the thing is, you're coming in here saying your friend is the best, even though you don't know me or clyde and I witnessed what I'm saying. 

I got nothing against TJ.   I played in a match where he got 50 to my 33, but I was a noob to be sure.  And I was on mic and said I know I won't win, but I want 2nd and I got 2nd and he wrote me saying nice job.  Margera gave clyde props when he beat him 3 times in a row.  There are some guys who have class, but you seem to be lacking in that department.   I do know that in the early going, TJ and Faiz stayed in matches together, but TJ did leave some matches - of course he'll never admit it, but I"m right.

And one last thing, clyde's the only guy I ever saw get 50 kills in HARDCORE shootouts... repeatedly.   He got so good that he got kicked out all the time to where he stopped playing.   He wasn't lagging, he was just that good and people got sick of losing to him.  He was #2 in hardcore shootouts and would have been #1 if he played more, because he always crushed the guy who was #1, but that guy played around the clock and he and his friends were some of the guys who'd eventually kick clyde.  When we ran into "normal" clans, clyde would get kicked for killing them in expert mode.

Everyone talked crap in RDR, but Clyde didn't.  Clyde just won and he was a nice guy, but you wouldn't know that, because all you care about is your reputation as a legend.  Show some respect yourself and you might get some in return.

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Re: Avoid UBK
« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2016, 03:01:20 AM »
What's going on?

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Re: Avoid UBK
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2016, 09:48:11 AM »
Is this the bathroom?

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Re: Avoid UBK
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2016, 10:29:53 AM »
Oh, wow! It's another episode of As the RDR World Turns! Everybody have their popcorn?

That is why I never bothered to join clans when I first started out playing RDR.  People take that crap way too seriously.

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Re: Avoid UBK
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2016, 04:24:36 PM »
Oh, wow! It's another episode of As the RDR World Turns! Everybody have their popcorn?

That is why I never bothered to join clans when I first started out playing RDR.  People take that crap way too seriously.

I blame social security.

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Re: Avoid UBK
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2016, 04:46:15 PM »
I blame mental retardness.