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Re: Gun Laws (Legal or Illegal?)
« Reply #60 on: March 07, 2013, 08:08:35 PM »
Deans point is a perfectly reasonable one.  Ever since Obama first ran people have been trying to figure out what he actually believes. He was only senator for 4 months before he ran for president.  Before that he was an unknown with no discernable record if what he believed.  That's why this scandal with his crazy church pastor was news for most of a year and other things.  Because many people are genuinely curious just who he actually is. 
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Re: Gun Laws (Legal or Illegal?)
« Reply #61 on: March 07, 2013, 10:31:34 PM »
I favor being able to own a gun. I have no problem with some restrictions or regulations within reason. I imagine my idea of "reason" differs from people in militias, and is less based on paranoia. :/

I think there is curiosity and there is skepticism. Dare I say "birthers" are actively looking for a reason to discredit Obama? I don't care if extended clips are outlawed. I have family who like owning "assault" rifles, and there are perfectly responsible from what I can see. When we have talked guns they are okay with restricting capacity size, but they understand people's wariness.

Regulation is a slippery slope. Look at the Patriot Act - totally run amok. Two sides to that sword as well...

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Re: Gun Laws (Legal or Illegal?)
« Reply #62 on: March 08, 2013, 04:44:15 AM »
 Strict gun laws do not prevent crime. In my state (vermont) just about anyone can buy a gun, you dont even need a permit for a rifle. I could walk through my town carrying a mossberrg and as long as its not loaded the cops cant touch me. My point is that with such relaxed gun laws you would think violent crimes are very common up here, they are not. I think we even have one of the lowest crime rates in the country. But that could also be because we are a bunch of gun crazy hicks too ;)

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Re: Gun Laws (Legal or Illegal?)
« Reply #63 on: March 08, 2013, 07:26:30 AM »
Yeah its called Open Carry laws and only a few states outlaw open carry.  Here's a video of someone who knows the law punking police:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfdEbe7e9GE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfdEbe7e9GE</a>

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Re: Gun Laws (Legal or Illegal?)
« Reply #65 on: March 08, 2013, 07:13:49 PM »
I LOVE Vermont. You can walk into a bank with a gun if you want. My family decends from Ethan Allen of the Green Mountain Boys. There is a lack of diversity there though... :/

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Re: Gun Laws (Legal or Illegal?)
« Reply #66 on: March 08, 2013, 07:55:04 PM »
This article is about a town considering mandatory gun ownership.  Sadly seems reactionary works both ways.  One of the major ways government fails at providing a safe society is that it makes too many laws.  Every additional law reduces the manpower available to enforce each law by the % of total laws it represents.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/07/us/georgia-gun-requirement/index.html?c=us

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Re: Gun Laws (Legal or Illegal?)
« Reply #67 on: March 09, 2013, 01:52:48 AM »
I LOVE Vermont. You can walk into a bank with a gun if you want. My family decends from Ethan Allen of the Green Mountain Boys. There is a lack of diversity there though... :/
Yea its pretty Caucasian up here for sure

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« Last Edit: March 09, 2013, 09:31:40 AM by rdeyd1 573 »
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence;it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."  -George Washington

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