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Title: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on January 17, 2011, 02:23:08 AM
The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
By Captain Subovon


(http://i.imgur.com/DNu54.jpg)



With contributions from the following fellers:

VMB-TAN whose  Youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/AlpheNoord) is now one of the best Stagecoach Boating resources on the net.
BlackMetalDevil, the most tenacious boater of them all, the man who haunts Gaptooth Breach.
Gringo_Hunter, founder of The United Boaters.

Thanks to their enthusiasm, on April 27th and 28th, 2012, members of this community set a world record. 16 people from around the whole damn planet got in the same Free Roam and took 16 stagecoaches floating down the river. We got 16 people on 16 stagecoaches sailing at the same time. See it in Technicolor. (http://youtu.be/T88vrUCIWik)

Many thanks to all of you who post in this forum. I've learned great tricks from you farkin' weirdos and I hope this post inspires a few folks to take their grandmothers out on the water.


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I made this video for 'ya.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EupyO3Shtso




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METHOD




In order to go boating in Multiplayer, you need to get your hands on the stagecoach at the top of the mine in Gaptooth Breach. You can also go boating in a coach with a  white top but they're hard to find and you can't get as many posse mates on top of them.

Once you have the stagecoach, everyone but the driver must hop on top of the stagecoach. Anyone who stays seated inside will drown which is why it's such a great place to put the noobs.

After extensive testing, I have to advise against anyone sitting in the shotgun seat. Those boys have a high mortality rate. Get everybody on top except the driver.

Then it's just a matter of staying on as the driver heads into the water. The driver should not move! Once the stagecoach gets into the water, they will see their characters glitch: it will make like it's getting off and "pop" back all wet and standing on the front seat. If you don't touch the controller, if you don't try to keep your character on the boat, the glitch will take care of you. Any movement on top of your new boat may end with drowning.

Everybody who stays on top of the stagecoach is going sailing.

The hard part is finding good launching places. There are hundreds of spots where you can get the stagecoach into the water but in most, it'll get stuck and go nowhere which ruins the seat covers for nothing. Thus, this post. I have found 4 which are reliable but remember: none of these launches work every single time so patience is key. This is a glitch, after all.


LOCATIONS


From Dixon's Crossing to Manteca falls.
Click here to see it on the map (http://i.imgur.com/MKUHM.jpg).
Click here to see it in the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EupyO3Shtso#t=46s).

My favorite cruise is past the marina of Thieves' Landing and into the canyon. and up to Old Bacchus's place where everybody gets stuck. (http://i.imgur.com/u2Ueg.jpg) It's a good 10 minute ride and it's a lot of fun to get into a firefight with the local hoodlums. You will hit one or two of the boats in the marina. You can jump into them and have hours of fun. You'll also be the colored dot with the best damn location in the entire game and people will want to be with you.
Now you can't make it over the waterfall from Thieves' Landing since you get stuck at Old Bacchus' place but you can do it if you launch after Butter bridge. You'll need to use the "aim to boat" method explained bellow. I'm using the word "launch" literally because you're gonna have to ride your stagecoach off the cliff. Choose a spot between the bridge and the falls, whip your horses into kamikaze mode and aim your gun all the way down. It's not quite the same as getting there after a cruise but it's a fun stunt to pull off. Just remember to tie down your beer cooler good and tight.

From Great Plains, near Beecher's Hope to Blackwater
Click here to see it on the map (http://i.imgur.com/3lUqz.jpg).
Click here to see it in the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EupyO3Shtso#t=199s).

This one is great fun because of the rapids and then it's a long, pretty journey to Blackwater at good speed.
Launching is easy: it's an gentle slope to drive down, giving posse mates a safe ride into the water. You get going pretty fast down some rapids and then it takes you all the way to Blackwater. Just beyond the city, you'll hit an invisible wall and come to a stop. There is a chance you'll get stuck in the first rapids. A good 10-15 minute ride.
To guarantee a good long ride all the way to Blackwater, check out this picture (http://i.imgur.com/c3SxWmW.jpg) and align your wheels with the lines I drew (like a 4 year-old).

The rapids at Tanner's Span
Click here to see it on the map (http://i.imgur.com/kkp0y.jpg).
Click here to see it in the video (http://youtu.be/EupyO3Shtso).

This is a short but sweet ride down the rapids. I always get stuck in Still Water. I wonder why…. Anyway, this requires driving down a steep slope with some control over speed to not tip the stagecoach but it is possible to keep the posse mates on the back. I suggest slowly ordering the horses forward and then hitting the breaks. They keep sliding down the slope and the posse mates can stay on. Just before hitting the water, whip the horses to get some speed. Enjoy the turbulent waters for a few minutes.

Aurora Basin and Tanner's Span
Click Here to see it on the map (http://i.imgur.com/CQVlU.jpg).

There is no current in Aurora Basin but you can go down the river. You can launch from anywhere along the river. If you survive the entry, you'll go somewhere. These are more difficult locations to launch from. People will drown. Here is video of VMB-TAN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOWZ6Gp_yCQ) getting chased by hungry predators into the river and Gringo_Hunter backs into the rapids (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxe5RfQYwOw&feature=player_embedded) and makes it over the waterfall.

From the bridge of Ramita De La Baya in Perdito to the gang hideout of Nosalida
Click here to see it on the map (http://i.imgur.com/93s2a.jpg).
I put this one last because it's very slow and boring and is the same route as "The River" co-op mission. That one's a lot more fun. You will not be floating half as fast, so be prepared for a long trip if you make it all the way. I hadn't packed a sandwich and I fuckin' regretted it. There is a good chance the stagecoach will get caught at the first rapids which are not too far down the river. This location's only real virtues are that it's easy to get a posse on the river from the island and it's close to Gaptooth Breach. For those who enjoy watching paint dry, it's great so tell the noobs about it and keep the others between you and me. Thanks.




Here are some observations and tips I have after drinking lots of water:



It should be obvious that all of this is much easier to do in single player since you can grab a taxi-coach, have it take you to your destination in no time and then steal it.

Aim to boat: you can successfully launch by aiming your gun while you barrel down a rough slopes or even flying off a cliff. This keeps your character “locked” into his seat until the stagecoach hits the water, instead of falling off. When the stagecoach hits the water, you get the character glitch and you’re on a boat.

Grab 2 or 3 stagecoaches if you've got a posse. There's an awfully quick and convenient way of doing this without having the grind Gaptooth: the infinite stagecoach glitch. Here is a video of how to do it. (http://youtu.be/Vc09rn2D4jE)

A slope without too many bumps is only necessary if you have people on top. Alone, you can go down some serious, bumpy terrain and survive water entry. However, scientific studies show that: steep slope + rocks + Stagecoach + speed = 68% increase in death.

Kill all but one of the horses before going into the water or you might get stuck on them. Hell, one time the law found me while I was floating semi-peacefully and one of them fell off after running into six of my bullets. His horse kept going and died in the water right in front of me. Damn thing caught the stagecoach and I became a sitting duck of death.

Anyone sitting shotgun will automatically jump off and miss the boat which is why it's such a great place to put the noobs.

In most cases, the get-going can be painfully slow but you'll eventually come unglued and start floating down river.

When you get stuck (notice I'm not saying if ), there are only three things you can try to do: jump up and down, walk around the top of the stagecoach and fire your weapon. The most effective, by far, is jumping but neither method is likely to work. Most of the time, when you get stuck, that's it.

In multiplayer, be prepared to get shot at. In Hardcore Free Roam, you'll have better chances of making it since you'll be invisible on the map. Private Free Roam may well be where you want to go.



Further Explorations



VMB-TAN says "Take your horse along for the ride (http://youtu.be/BMomyd0z6BM)," if you're a real man! It is safe to say that he is one of the grand masters of stagecoach boating. He has also mastered the art of chilling on rooftops with his horse (http://youtu.be/lYSbAXDHjKk). Here's another hobby you might like. It's strangely related to stagecoach boating.

BlackMetalDevil, another fine Australian gentleman I've had the privilege of sailing with, shared these tips with us:

Putting the stagecoach in auto-pilot. Set a path on the map to your destination, aim (L2), hit the X to accelerate to full speed and then hit START. You're now in the red map and options menu and the coach will keep going, at speed and on track. You've got to drive out of the hills of Gaptooth or the horses may loop back. Also, any turn over 90 degrees is likely to send the horses flying off course. You have to keep an eye on it when it turns onto Armadillo’s main street, for example, but it’s awful convenient if you need to make yerself a sandwich.

Transport INTO the mine at Gaptooth breach. To save a few minutes, transport into the mine and skip the first firefight at the entrance. Set a marker on your map, here (http://i.imgur.com/fD3Rn.jpg). You'll spawn by the gold but you'll need to run up and hit the checkmark at the entrance of the mine to activate the hide-out.

In this post (http://www.reddead.net/forums/index.php/topic,17257.msg453641.html#msg453641), BlackMetalDevil discusses the method by which the Gatling gun-coach can be brought into multiplayer. You can raft on that one if you can keep your hands on it (you're gonna be popular if you go blazin' through town with that thing.)

And finally, if you're interested in how The United Boaters, your friends from RedDead.net got those 16 sailors on 16 stagecoaches in the same Free Roam session, here's the whole damn story, thanks to  Gringo's post. (http://www.reddead.net/forums/index.php/topic,21528.0.html)



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Self portrait by BlackMetalDevil



Please contribute your favorite spot! I know (hope) that there are awesome spots to launch from that I don't know about. Please hit reply and give us the exact location. If you can't link a picture (I used my phone to take those included in this post), be as precise as possible. I'll test all the suggestions and update the main post to add as much information on this topic  as possible. I'm busy so updates may be sporadic but I will make them and give full credit.


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Cinematography by VMB-TAN



Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: DethPimp on January 17, 2011, 02:51:38 AM
The axe in your head clearly functions as an antenna picking up waves of inspired madness!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: waajon on January 17, 2011, 10:19:18 AM
Thanks for posting this me and my friends have been trying to do some sailing in thieves landing, we didnt know about the other locations :D.

Awesome guide *thumbs up*
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: AL3X-j-M on January 17, 2011, 12:09:43 PM
Quote from: 'Subovon' pid='274561' dateline='1295248988'

I hadn't packed a sandwich and I fuckin' regretted it.

This is my favorite sentence.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Legion on January 17, 2011, 12:23:05 PM
HOLY BISCUITS!

I love you!

I must sail to the new world and destroy what is left of those savage indians!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: A Blunted Bullet on January 17, 2011, 12:46:57 PM
Excellent thread, have 2 cookies!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Legion on January 17, 2011, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: 'WitheredSeven' pid='274808' dateline='1295286417'

Excellent thread, have 2 cookies!


Vajean will not be pleased!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Uglymugger on January 19, 2011, 12:46:15 PM
Fantastic post!  Thanks.  I'm going boating tonight.  arrrrrrrrr matey.  :pirate:
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Slimm City on January 19, 2011, 01:15:57 PM
I've known about this for a while but quit trying after several failed attemps, but then again I really didn't try hard enough and soon lost the motivation to carry it out further. But with this guide I hope to be sailing the San Luis River in the coming times, nice post man :2thumbsup:
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Gofer on January 20, 2011, 06:43:44 AM
This is definitely one of my favorite pastimes as well with this game. Its funny how you mentioned how doing this on public free roam is not safe and not recomended because thats the only place I would try it. I would usually get a posse of good friends and all go to gaptooth over and over until we had about 5 stagecoaches. We would then ride all the way from gaptooth to thieves landing with 2 posse mates on each sides of the stagecoaches riding on horse in a sort of military formation....like we were protecting some important cargo or somthing. Obviously this would cause a lot of attention and attackers so before we embarked on our mission we would pit stop at camps and make sure we were all filled up on dead eye, and would all do the new gang hidouts so we all had explosive rifles, then made our way. Man that was fun...

Anyway back to the point, all the places you pointed out in the OP I have tried and are all great spots. One place you should try checking out that works is up in tall trees north of tanners span ( I will upload a pic tommorow).
It was a pain in the ass to work though. It got stuck at one point and we had 1 person stay on top of the coach as 5 of us would get our mounts and commit suicide over and over again by jumping against the stagecoach slowly pushing it further and further for about 10 minutes until suddenly out of nowhere the coach took off and within seconds my friend along with the make shift raft was going down the waterfall. Great times. I would love to get your psn if your on the ps3 and maybe we can all try river rafting together?


Here are some pics of past river rafting escapades...
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z53/sidious501/downsized_0828002319.jpg)
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z53/sidious501/0911001454.jpg)

(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z53/sidious501/downsized_0927002109.jpg)
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z53/sidious501/0927002112.jpg)
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z53/sidious501/0927002114a.jpg)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Slimm City on January 20, 2011, 11:36:29 AM
If we can turn a stage coach into a Raft, then why can't rockstar just give us a boat or something of the sort. All they would have to do is create the object and set it next to a shallow body of water that leads into the main river... We can figure out a way to push it in our selves, or there could be a release switch somewhere close by....
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: SOGGY on January 20, 2011, 12:13:10 PM
That would defeat the fun of stagecoach rafting.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Outlaw_Marksman on January 22, 2011, 07:36:21 AM
Quote from: 'SGM690' pid='277437' dateline='1295543590'

That would defeat the fun of stagecoach rafting.


A raft could be good but like SGM said it would take the fun out if it. Even if there was a raft i bet a lot of people would still drive their wagons and stagecoach into the water.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Butcherbunny on January 22, 2011, 12:37:24 PM
Nice thread!! Thanks for bringing this one to my attention and if you ever need a rafting buddy count me in!!
:toilet: <--- where's an emoticon on a raft when you need one? (next closest thing)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Creeping_Death79 on January 23, 2011, 08:35:05 PM
This will give me something new to do besides jump horses on top of the mcfarlane barn
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on January 26, 2011, 10:46:05 PM
Thank you all for your positive feedback, folks! I’m happy to know people are into the idea. I’ll be keeping an eye on the rivers to see if the idea catches on. I don’t see it becoming anything more than a niche activity but I’m still looking for the day I’m riding across a bridge and I see some cowboys floating down the river.

Gofer and Muzzleflash, I’m Subovon on the PSN as well. I’d love to join you on a rafting trip and I’m going to try adding you guys to my friend’s list. Same goes to anyone who feels that way.

Also, to respond to your suggestion, Gofer, you’re right about being able to go over the falls by entering the river along Tanner’s Span. I updated my post and included your info in the afterwards. The list was designed to help people get on the water and get going quickly, which is why I omitted it. Your pictures are awesome and I agree with you: HC Free Roam is the place to do this with posse mates. I meant to warn would-be sailors that in Normal FR, they’d get auto-aimed and shot on sight since most people looking at the map will notice a colored dot in the middle of a river!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: jci2297 on January 26, 2011, 11:10:11 PM
I love doing this too, though I have yet to make it over Manteca. I always get stuck up against a boat in Thieves' or in front of Bacchus. Also, I wouldn't call it a glitch, since the floating physics of the coach seems pretty deliberate. I just wish they would fix the currents' effects on the coach. I hate how the San Luis flows so fast through that canyon but the coach moves so slow.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: utb1528 on January 27, 2011, 03:31:02 AM
Nice. Thanks.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on February 12, 2011, 04:00:44 AM
Quote from: 'jci2297' pid='282737' dateline='1296101411'

I love doing this too, though I have yet to make it over Manteca. I always get stuck up against a boat in Thieves' or in front of Bacchus. Also, I wouldn't call it a glitch, since the floating physics of the coach seems pretty deliberate. I just wish they would fix the currents' effects on the coach. I hate how the San Luis flows so fast through that canyon but the coach moves so slow.


When I'm looking to do that, I try to measure how deep the water is. It's an important part of what gets you going. I also know that using slopes to go in is best. But in fact, along the river at Tanner' Reach, you can plow over the rock and get to float. In other words, it's a little different every-time.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: 1morey on February 20, 2011, 08:51:31 PM
I've been doing the Thieve's Landing to Manteca Falls route, but always got stuck on the canyon. Then I found this guide and got to say it helped a lot more then just my common knowledge. I am trying the Great Plains to Blackwater route, and the coach got stuck on the rock in the middle of the river...for five seconds. At first I thought it would tip like the last time, so I tried to jump on the top of the stagecoach. I jumped the wrong way and ended up on the rock. I am currently watching the stagecoach drift downriver and me stranded on the rock. :dodgy:

*facepalm*
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: rdrbandito55 on February 20, 2011, 09:38:36 PM
wow this is god damn fun
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on February 24, 2011, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: 'rdrbandito55' pid='303358' dateline='1298255916'

wow this is god damn fun


You sir, are god damn right.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Artemis on February 26, 2011, 10:03:53 AM
I am now so proud to say that Great Maiden Voyage across the waters from Great Plains to Blackwater has now been taken! Very fun. And serene, too, until we veered too much to the right and got embedded upon the shore. No worries, though! Hero friend became Suicide Bomber With Horse, propelling us along once again, course the sea bed was strewn with the bodies of horses, but alas, they are now martyrs!
Subovon, thanks for helping me and my fellow crazies feel like right little sailors! Appreciated
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: El Guapo on February 26, 2011, 12:14:27 PM
Hey sub, whats the easiest way to go boating byyourself in free roam? I tried yesterday with a gaptooth breech stagecoach, but I failed. What I did was go to fontera bridge on the american side and see if I could boat off from there as just a test run since the bridge had like a little slope and a cliff there. It kind of was a disaster though. I tried to go down near the cliff to where the water was, not by charging off the cliff but by just driving near the water bellow it.

But as I went down I think I went too fast or it was to steep or something, since as I went down my horses came off, resulting in getting me thrown off the wagon. I survived though, and my wagon slid into the water. So I climbed up the cliff and tried to jump off and land on my wagon from it. But I just missed and drowned :(

So how would you do it byyourself?

EDIT: Just saw the backwards horse thing. On the river right now ;)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: JakeRDR on February 26, 2011, 01:29:05 PM
cheers mate this guide is awesome! me and my mate are going sailing tonight, i'll start off easily following the video of the firs one! thumbs up!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on March 02, 2011, 12:32:02 AM
Quote from: 'El Guapo' pid='308511' dateline='1298740467'

So how would you do it byyourself?

EDIT: Just saw the backwards horse thing. On the river right now ;)


Doing it by yourself is by far the easiest way to do it and believe me, the backwards horse thing is tedious in comparison to just driving into the water (although it's cool as hell). Your horses drown, you see you character get up and jump off BUT LET IT HAPPEN. Don't touch your controller. Your character will glitch after stepping off and reappear in the driver's seat. Just let it happen without any correction on the controller and there you go down the river.

Take note of the entry points I mention in the guide but don't be afraid to explore. There is some luck involved. The launching points I included are all as "sure fire" as it gets.

Quote from: 'JakeRDR' pid='308583' dateline='1298744945'

cheers mate this guide is awesome! me and my mate are going sailing tonight, i'll start off easily following the video of the firs one! thumbs up!


Two words, mate: Thieves' Landing. You can back up your coach to one of the roofs in town, which makes it easy to get your posse on top and slowly, easily ride into the water and sail the marina. It's awesome. Report back!

Quote from: 'Artemis' pid='308424' dateline='1298732633'

I am now so proud to say that Great Maiden Voyage across the waters from Great Plains to Blackwater has now been taken! Very fun. And serene, too, until we veered too much to the right and got embedded upon the shore. No worries, though! Hero friend became Suicide Bomber With Horse, propelling us along once again, course the sea bed was strewn with the bodies of horses, but alas, they are now martyrs!
Subovon, thanks for helping me and my fellow crazies feel like right little sailors! Appreciated


Thanks for sharing your story, sailor. I hope to read more from others as well. I'm Subovon on the PSN so if anyone wants to cruise, add me (maybe mention Stagecoach or boating).
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Artemis on March 04, 2011, 12:20:13 PM
Definitely. I tell ya, that Tanner's Reach one is proving to be my biggest challenge. When trusty stagecoach arrives, the rapids rebel and the rocks embrace. *Determined*
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: IndianOutlaw on March 04, 2011, 02:10:04 PM
Has anyone found a way to sail on the lake away from Blackwater? Ive always been fascinated what is beyond the shores of the dock since the game came out... Maybe you drop through a "blue hell" or something when you go too far.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: jci2297 on March 04, 2011, 02:12:18 PM
Quote from: 'IndianOutlaw' pid='315082' dateline='1299265804'

Has anyone found a way to sail on the lake away from Blackwater? Ive always been fascinated what is beyond the shores of the dock since the game came out... Maybe you drop through a "blue hell" or something when you go too far.


I think it would be funny to set sail out on the lake and start inviting people to a posse once you get way out there. I'm sure it's possible to launch somewhere and float out there.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on March 04, 2011, 02:20:06 PM
You can get there, I think with the stagecoach-walk-in-the-air glitch (but not sure)

Stagecoach surfing, I should be doing it again, it's been some time.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: El Guapo on March 05, 2011, 12:35:07 PM
Anyone sailed on Lake Don Julio yet? I wonder if there's any current at all, since it's just a lake.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on March 07, 2011, 03:27:45 AM
Quote from: 'Artemis' pid='314979' dateline='1299259213'

Definitely. I tell ya, that Tanner's Reach one is proving to be my biggest challenge. When trusty stagecoach arrives, the rapids rebel and the rocks embrace. *Determined*


You can also put in at the bottom of Aurora Basin, where the river begins. I've seen my stagecoach do weird things in those rapids: go sideways, backwards and then get stuck. Crazy rapids.
Quote from: 'IndianOutlaw' pid='315082' dateline='1299265804'

Has anyone found a way to sail on the lake away from Blackwater? Ive always been fascinated what is beyond the shores of the dock since the game came out... Maybe you drop through a "blue hell" or something when you go too far.


Yeah, you can sail there by putting in from Great Plains, near Beecher's Hope. From there, you'll sail through some cool rapids and past Blackwater. Then you'll hit an invisible wall and go no further. You won't be far past the tone.

You can get on shore on the other side of the Serendipity and along there but you won't get very far either; that's the edge of the game.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: bobastory on March 07, 2011, 03:53:05 AM
WUUT VIDEO PLS
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on March 07, 2011, 06:33:59 PM
Quote from: 'bobastory' pid='317386' dateline='1299487985'
WUUT VIDEO PLS

Check out the original post on this thread. I linked to several videos by other players. Most aren't great but they're helpful.

I'm working on a couple of videos but I ain't a high tech hillbilly so it's taking a while. I'll be posting better "video tutorials."
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Earle_Martin on March 13, 2011, 03:08:10 AM
great guide
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Slimm City on March 13, 2011, 02:17:48 PM
I'm still trying... :sweatdrop:
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: floofgoofer on March 13, 2011, 06:42:16 PM
my durn chracter keeps abandoning ship at launch in Great Plains, pisser after the long ride from Gaptooth.  how to strap him down?
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: jci2297 on March 14, 2011, 12:28:38 AM
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my durn chracter keeps abandoning ship at launch in Great Plains, pisser after the long ride from Gaptooth.  how to strap him down?


He's supposed to jump off then glitch back to the roof.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Creeping_Death79 on March 14, 2011, 04:12:39 PM
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Has anyone found a way to sail on the lake away from Blackwater? Ive always been fascinated what is beyond the shores of the dock since the game came out... Maybe you drop through a "blue hell" or something when you go too far.


I think it would be funny to set sail out on the lake and start inviting people to a posse once you get way out there. I'm sure it's possible to launch somewhere and float out there.


I've done that on foot due to another glitch. People drown over and over. Unless you decide to go to the land across the water.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: shaunr on March 15, 2011, 01:37:51 AM
can't wait to try this out. great post!!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on April 09, 2011, 08:39:56 AM
I wish this was in some new DLC or something. It sure beats the horseracing we have now...
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: jci2297 on April 09, 2011, 09:48:03 AM
I disagree. If R* promoted it then it would lose much of it's awesomeness because everyone would know about it. To me, the best part of coach rafting is the surprised reactions of other players.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: L.A.G AddySCFC on April 10, 2011, 06:41:49 AM
Quote from: 'floofgoofer' pid='323552' dateline='1300056136'

my durn chracter keeps abandoning ship at launch in Great Plains, pisser after the long ride from Gaptooth.  how to strap him down?
Next time we are both on at the same time I will add you in with me and the others.

We did quite a bit of stagecoach boating on friday.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on April 10, 2011, 07:41:08 AM
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I disagree. If R* promoted it then it would lose much of it's awesomeness because everyone would know about it. To me, the best part of coach rafting is the surprised reactions of other players.

Yeah but now I have to do it alone... :( no one crazy enough is online yet.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: jci2297 on April 10, 2011, 11:19:01 AM
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I disagree. If R* promoted it then it would lose much of it's awesomeness because everyone would know about it. To me, the best part of coach rafting is the surprised reactions of other players.


Yeah but now I have to do it alone... :( no one crazy enough is online yet.


The one time I tried rafting with a passenger, it didn't work. My character (driving) jumped off and glitched back on top, like he's supposed to. My passenger jumped off and just drowned. Did we do something wrong? All I did was drive off Dixon Crossing. I told him not to do anything and that he would glitch to the top of the coach, which didn't happen. In any case, he wasn't happy and shot me from the bank after respawning.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on April 10, 2011, 01:44:05 PM
Ah what an asshole. But only the driver will end on top of the stagecoach, the passenger doesn't.

For some weeks I jump on the roof before entering the water.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: jci2297 on April 10, 2011, 11:26:20 PM
I'll have to remember that. What's a good place near Thieves' Landing where a passenger could jump off a ledge and land on the roof of the coach?
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Archvile78 on April 11, 2011, 03:57:12 AM
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I'll have to remember that. What's a good place near Thieves' Landing where a passenger could jump off a ledge and land on the roof of the coach?

Any accessible roof work, might take a couple of tries though due to the silly jumping.

Also i tried stagecoach boating today with my childhood friend. It was hilarious, especially in great plains down the rapid.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on April 11, 2011, 04:21:45 AM
I do it like in the movie. I don't ride the horses into the water but the stagecoach first. Jump off and jump on the horses (go stand in front of them and sprint, then jump. You can also do it from the side) if you're on the roof: shoot the horses and the stagecoach will drive itself into the water.

Yesterday I drove the  San Luis river from Ramita De La Baya, boated for nearly 45 minutes until I got stuck underneath Frontera Bridge.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on April 13, 2011, 09:53:01 PM
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Yesterday I drove the  San Luis river from Ramita De La Baya, boated for nearly 45 minutes until I got stuck underneath Frontera Bridge.


That’s a nice drift! Where did you put in? From the island or the shore? If you can snap and post a phone picture of your map with an X on it, that would be great. I’m trying to collect all the great launching spots in the game.

Don't forget I’m still looking for good suggestions. Where do you launch from?

Quote from: 'jci2297' pid='347083' dateline='1302356883'

I disagree. If R* promoted it then it would lose much of it's awesomeness because everyone would know about it. To me, the best part of coach rafting is the surprised reactions of other players.


I’m with you. I like sharing it with everyone on here because I figure anyone interested in the forum plays the game a lot. Also, they read and that’s a good way to start separating the meat from the good stock. Let Stage-Boating spread through loyal players.

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The one time I tried rafting with a passenger, it didn't work. My character (driving) jumped off and glitched back on top, like he's supposed to. My passenger jumped off and just drowned. Did we do something wrong? All I did was drive off Dixon Crossing. I told him not to do anything and that he would glitch to the top of the coach, which didn't happen. In any case, he wasn't happy and shot me from the bank after respawning.


No, you’re doing it correctly. I decided to edit the OP and instruct people NOT to sit in the passenger seat. Mortality is high but it does work which is why I’d written it  in. But I'll be damned if my success rate with someone there didn't go south after posting.

Sure fire way to get the whole posse on the water: use a handful of guys to clear the Gaptooth Breach hideout quickly and get a couple (or hell, 3 or 4) stagecoaches and that’ll give you some space on the roof and some spare boats. Just keep in mind that if you park a stagecoach far enough for the hideout to respawn, the damn game will “steal it” if you don’t have someone on it.

So grab ‘em and drive ‘em to the water is what I tell people. Best to have ‘em safe and regroup at your destination of choice. Don’t forget to grab a sandwich and unless you’re going to Thieves’ Landing, sun screen is a good idea, too.

Happy sailin’ boys!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on April 16, 2011, 09:02:44 AM
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That’s a nice drift! Where did you put in? From the island or the shore? If you can snap and post a phone picture of your map with an X on it, that would be great. I’m trying to collect all the great launching spots in the game.


It was a long trip but very relaxing one :) I took off from the island, the point shaped spot. A little to the left from where you started (posted in your first post)

(http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/VMB-TAN/UselessJunk/Rdr_ramita_baya_map.jpg)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: pablomcquy on April 19, 2011, 10:20:21 AM
I can't go get on top of the stagecoach, how do you do it?
Whenever I press square near the coach, my character just jumps.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on April 19, 2011, 01:09:15 PM
Try jumping on the horses (square butten not triangle) either from the front or the side. It can take some time, but you'll be rewarded when you succeed.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on April 19, 2011, 05:58:44 PM
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It was a long trip but very relaxing one :) I took off from the island, the point shaped spot. A little to the left from where you started (posted in your first post)




Thanks for the pic! I've gone in at that spot and it's from there that I once got very luck and made it all the way to Nosalida. It was a long cruise indeed. I glitched through the bridge and kept going. Like you, on most trips, I'll either get stuck at the bridge or against one of the rocks in the rapids - the rapids you get to soon after launching. Always some luck involved!

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I can't go get on top of the stagecoach, how do you do it?
Whenever I press square near the coach, my character just jumps.


You don't need to do anything to get on top of the stagecoach if you're alone. Read the OP on how you can drive in and do nothing - and survive for a long sailing trip. If you're trying to get some posse mates on top, pull it up against a house you can climb on and step onto the stagecoach from the roof. That's the easiest way to do it.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on April 23, 2011, 01:14:01 PM
I did it today at Greenhollow, west of the rocks in the water. The current east of Greenhollow isn't strong enough, I tried various spots earlier on. Too bad actually, it would be quite a trip from Manteca Falls to (hopefully) Nosalida :)

When floating downstream there's a S-curve in the river, a bend to the left and then right, got stuck at the second :( I definately gonna try that spot some more, my goal is Nosalida :)

(http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/VMB-TAN/UselessJunk/Rdr_greenhollow_map.jpg)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on April 24, 2011, 06:17:32 PM
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I did it today at Greenhollow, west of the rocks in the water. The current east of Greenhollow isn't strong enough, I tried various spots earlier on. Too bad actually, it would be quite a trip from Manteca Falls to (hopefully) Nosalida :)

When floating downstream there's a S-curve in the river, a bend to the left and then right, got stuck at the second :( I definately gonna try that spot some more, my goal is Nosalida :)



Ah, Greehollow. I was considerably disappointing that I could not launch a nice trip from there but it won't work. (If anyone knows of a way, please say so bellow.)

I can tell you that the ONLY time I made it all the way to Nosalida, I launched from the same spot on the island you were on in Ramita De La Baya. I didn't get stuck in the rapids, I didn't get stuck at the bridge - a miracle that I glitched through it - and then it was a sloooooow drift all the way down the bend. I had launched the stagecoach and started reading and answering work mail while it was happening and it was kinda fun to keep an eye on but like I said in the OP, you're better off doing the river raft mission with Irish again or the co-op mission. You'd think that since that stretch of the river is featured several times in the game, it would float the coach but it don't.

Keep sharing ideas as you discover them, sailors!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Al_C_UatdaSaloon on April 24, 2011, 09:47:22 PM
What a great thread, thanks for the info and effort!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on April 25, 2011, 06:09:00 AM
Greenhollow isn't a great spot for it. Tried it yesterday in SP a few times, but never made it around the second corner :(
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Gofer on April 25, 2011, 06:32:10 AM
heres a little bit of info that may or may not be helpful because Ive only done it once on accident and don't know if it will work again with the same results. I was down by the old bacchus place trying to start my river rafting from there hoping that if I started there I would have a better chance going down Manteca falls then if I started all they way back in Dixon Crossing. As soon as I got the stagecoach in the water it didnt budge 1 inch so I did what any stagecoach boater does in this situation, start using your mount as a sacrificial battering ram repeatedly drowning them over and over again in hopes of pushing the stagecoach farther into sea hoping it catches a drift. Luckily I had a good number of posse mates and I so happened to be using the buffalo as my mount. In one of my many attempts to push the stagecoach I ended up accidentally landing my buffalo directly on top of the stagecoach (immeadiatly tossing one of the designated sailors originally on the stagecoach into the water lol) and all of a sudden the stagecoach started moving. For some reason having a buffalo on top of the stagecoach changed everything. Unfortunately I did not make it past Manteca falls but ended up pretty close to it, but for some reason the boat just stopped in mid river. I just wanted to share this bit of info so that maybe waters previously unstagecoachboatable can possibly be stagecoachboatable with a buffalo on top. Or maybe it just did it this one time for some wierd reason. I havent had time to try it again so maybe someone else with more time can figure it out. Oh and heres a pic to prove it.
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z53/sidious501/downsized_0828002319.jpg)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on April 26, 2011, 01:10:34 AM
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Oh and heres a pic to prove it.

Holy cow! I bet that was funny as hell. It's hard to imagine duplicating the event but what a rig!

I've got to understand, though... where were you that the buffalo could jump up or fall on top of the stage coach? Those things won't jump over a pebble for me! Were you running at it from the hill?
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Gofer on April 26, 2011, 03:57:23 AM
Well if you go to the Old Bacchus Place right past the docks is where I decided to set sail and as we were able to little by little push the stagecoach farther into the river the land starts to go higher in elevation very fast so I basically just went to the edge of the cliff right above the stagecoach and wiggled my analog stick so it would go through the invisible barrier. I had only intended to widen the gap between the coach and the cliff walls  but ended up on top. And as you can see from the picture we were so close to the falls it was so dissapointing to get stuck there.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on April 26, 2011, 11:23:18 PM
Yeah, the river narrows there and it gets shallow. I wonder if that’s a way to speed up the water - you know, if the water’s physics programmed in the game react dynamically that way.

If you like jumping onto the top of things; try dropping the stagecoach from the other side of the river. It’s a cliff so you’ll have to aim the boat and ditch right before it goes over. The stagecoach will start to float very slowly towards the waterfall. It will go over in some cases so if you can jump onto it from the cliff, you’ll go over with it. As far as I know, this is the only way of going over the falls.

You know what is more fun than that? Driving the stagecoach off the road in front of the waterfall - or hell, off any elevation. It’s basically the same thing but you can do it with any set of wheels and you may survive some spectacular spills if you land on dirt. I still recommend doing this with the stagecoach, though. Pack it full of noobs is what I like to do.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Creeping_Death79 on April 26, 2011, 11:45:26 PM
Gotta love driving a full coach off a cliff, and bailing before you go over with it.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on April 27, 2011, 10:13:23 PM
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Gotta love driving a full coach off a cliff, and bailing before you go over with it.


Yep. I also love staying on and seeing if I survive. Surprisingly, I often do. There's some voodoo in those stagecoaches.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: jaky2008 on April 28, 2011, 02:32:18 PM
Nice signature Subovan!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: D00die2 on April 30, 2011, 04:36:47 AM
I always do a long jumo to the horses backs and click aim LT to not go over the other side and then aim towards the buggy and just walkup  ontop of the roof
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cole Train on May 02, 2011, 09:15:17 PM
I'm sorry I did not read this whole thread, I was just wondering, if you get into a river on the top of the stagecoach, does it actually sail down the river? Because I have gone into water with a wagon numerous times and I have just sat still in one position on top of the wagon.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: xRDSx WARLORD V on May 02, 2011, 09:31:49 PM
hackers
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: jci2297 on May 02, 2011, 11:41:27 PM
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hackers


Pardon?
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on May 03, 2011, 04:21:56 AM
@ TWO limitless: pick a spot where the water is flowing fast. Shooting into the water can help you move a bit too.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: stevethetree on May 03, 2011, 07:51:43 PM
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I'm sorry I did not read this whole thread, I was just wondering, if you get into a river on the top of the stagecoach, does it actually sail down the river? Because I have gone into water with a wagon numerous times and I have just sat still in one position on top of the wagon.


You need the stagecoach from Gaptooth Breach. It's a pain to get it, but it can be worth it... to some people.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on May 17, 2011, 04:27:49 AM
finally online again and saw a guy boating! At last! He got stuck near the Old Bacchus place, I tried to help him with dynamite but it didn't help.
I also tried to jump on the stagecoach from above but missed all the time.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Bigbadbob on May 17, 2011, 08:22:21 AM
I saw one stuck in that same place. On the side of the canyon right? I was waiting to see him go over the falls. How do you get off that wall?
I can't remember his name but it did have lots of XXXXX's in it.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on May 17, 2011, 09:21:47 AM
Over that wall? I just jumped off the cliff. His username was badplayer123456 I believe.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on May 26, 2011, 05:52:41 AM
I think Bigbadbob was talking about when the stagecoach gets stuck on the side of the cliff above Bacchus' place. Unfortunately, the answer is that it's the end of the ride. If you wait long enough, you'll make it to the old man's place but it'll take a long time.

I'm so glad to be seeing reports of stageboat-spottings. Of all the crazy goofy things I've done in this game, this is the one that causes the most hilarity.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Nellie Wilson on May 27, 2011, 01:15:57 PM
Great thread! Anyone name their stagecoach/boat? Mine is called 'Americana Rapture'.

[align=center](http://www.bradleyrock.com/nelliewilson/images/americanarapture.png)[/align]
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on May 27, 2011, 06:42:27 PM
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Great thread! Anyone name their stagecoach/boat? Mine is called 'Americana Rapture'.

[align=center](http://www.bradleyrock.com/nelliewilson/images/americanarapture.png)[/align]


Dude!

Firstly, thanks for the good words; they warm my cold heart . Secondly, great contribution to it - I can't believe I didn't think of asking that question!

Mine is the Argo because it was quite the Odyssey to figure it all out. How about the rest of you good folks?
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on May 28, 2011, 05:17:23 AM
Hahaha I never did that.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gringo_hunter on May 28, 2011, 06:11:31 AM
The Sailing Scotsman named after the flying scotsman train.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on May 29, 2011, 07:48:36 PM
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The Sailing Scotsman named after the flying scotsman train.


That's real good and it compelled me to find the Wikipedia article about it. Great read. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Scotsman_%28train%29)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/Fs_cent.jpg)

You remind me I miss trains in multiplayer but the stageboat kinda gives me some of the same pleasures. Shooting pissed off townfolk from a boat ain't all that different.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Doktor Alucard on June 02, 2011, 04:18:52 PM
I really need to try this.
Aside from Gaptooth
what are other coaches like that?
going through a hideout every time for a stagecoach doesn't seem right.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gringo_hunter on June 02, 2011, 05:38:48 PM
you can use the ones with white tops, as said in the first post.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on June 04, 2011, 07:26:29 AM
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I really need to try this.
Aside from Gaptooth
what are other coaches like that?
going through a hideout every time for a stagecoach doesn't seem right.


Yeah, you should sink your teeth into it.

Anyway, clear the hide-out 2 or 3 times. It's quick with a team and you get spare boats. Keep in mind that if you're doing this by yourself, you should just do it in single player. You hop on a stagecoach, tell it where you want to be and steal it when it drops you off. It's done in less than 30 seconds.

Read the guide, it Counts.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on June 22, 2011, 07:38:09 AM
Today I tried it just before Bittlebrush Trawl, from the Diez Coronas side. I kept getting stuck before the little shed, I tried three times but didn't manage. Next time Gagdet, next time I'll try a bit further upstream.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on June 25, 2011, 04:12:24 PM
Yep, spent lots of time getting sunburned and nothing else around those parts. I've tried all along the river on both sides, and it's sticky all over. I'm certain there is a sweet spot and if you find it, please post it here. I'll add it to the guide. It would make an awesome trip. I'm convinced it's possible. I just don't know from where, exactly.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Rukus on July 07, 2011, 10:28:05 AM
Found a new small place. The boar hunting area a little east of The Wreck has a surprisingly fast current if you get someone to give you and your posse mates a good push out there with their horse, although my hopes were dashed when it died down shortly before the Wreck....however. I only tried it in SP, if you could get someone to do a good horse jump at it I'd imagine you could get far enough out to float around the Wreck all the way down to the Old Baccus Place.

Aurora Basin is a fun suspenseful little rapid, although I haven't found a way to go all the way down.

Also, the key to speed has nothing to do with the water at all (its all the same speed) what it has to do with is the slope of the ground underneath the water and your entry speed, so treat the water like Ice.

Is there a quick way to get multiple stage coaches? I always try to get 2 but the coach won't respawn when my posse mates drive it away.
ONE MORE THING. Can someone PLEASE post a video on how to do the Beechers Hope-Blackwater run?? I can't for the life of me get on top of the stagecoach so I can shoot the horses and roll into the water. Do I have to have someone push?
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Nellie Wilson on July 07, 2011, 12:03:05 PM
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ONE MORE THING. Can someone PLEASE post a video on how to do the Beechers Hope-Blackwater run?? I can't for the life of me get on top of the stagecoach so I can shoot the horses and roll into the water. Do I have to have someone push?


Here's how I did some boating at Beecher's hope. Just skip to the 3:00 minute mark of the video. It can be difficult to avoid the sides of the mountains when they get close together so it may take several tries.

Stagecoach Boating at Beecher's Hope (http://www.youtube.com/user/simplybradrock?feature=mhee#p/u/8/ElzgkzFSeEA)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: jci2297 on July 07, 2011, 12:12:07 PM
Quote from: 'Rukus' pid='425127' dateline='1310048885'

Is there a quick way to get multiple stage coaches? I always try to get 2 but the coach won't respawn when my posse mates drive it away.


Sorry, you have to replay the hideout.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on July 07, 2011, 12:39:02 PM
Rukus: can you place a picture with the place you entered marked with an X or something, i'm not sure which place you're talking about.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on July 09, 2011, 04:47:02 PM
Quote from: 'Rukus' pid='425127' dateline='1310048885'

Found a new small place. The boar hunting area a little east of The Wreck has a surprisingly fast current [...] I'd imagine you could get far enough out to float around the Wreck all the way down to the Old Baccus Place.


It is one of the cool little cruises you can take but in my experience, you get stuck up against the Serendipity. Eventually, you'll get "sucked under" by the current. The stagecoach tips so far under the hull that you fall off and drown. I've never been able to make it past the wreck from anywhere. Hopefully, someone can prove me wrong.

Quote from: 'Rukus' pid='425127' dateline='1310048885'

Aurora Basin is a fun suspenseful little rapid, although I haven't found a way to go all the way down.



Me neither and I don't think it's possible.  That's fun, too. It's kind of like just off the bridge, above Stillwater. Those rapids give you a steep ride.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Rukus on July 10, 2011, 12:05:03 AM
New REALLY GOOD location. Just before the snake path up to cochinay and after the waterfall you can enter pretty much anywhere. Its a medium-speed rapid ride from Cochinay to Great Plains. You get docked however at the turn into the main section of Great Plains.

I tried going over the falls but it stops your RIGHT BEFORE the falls for no reason. The water is deep enough it appears, and theres no rock to stop you.

Sorry about not being able to post pics, im typing from PS3 and comp doesn't work.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on July 10, 2011, 05:19:45 AM
I know that place, I drove all the way up until you can't go any further. It was a nice ride but got stucks at the rapids, never went all the way to the invisible barrier though :(

And the "wreck" place you were talking about, I tried and Subovon is right, I got stuck against the ship and it got sucked underneath... Too bad.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on July 10, 2011, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: 'Rukus' pid='427462' dateline='1310270703'

New REALLY GOOD location. Just before the snake path up to cochinay and after the waterfall you can enter pretty much anywhere. Its a medium-speed rapid ride from Cochinay to Great Plains. You get docked however at the turn into the main section of Great Plains.

I tried going over the falls but it stops your RIGHT BEFORE the falls for no reason. The water is deep enough it appears, and theres no rock to stop you.

Sorry about not being able to post pics, im typing from PS3 and comp doesn't work.


Is there anyway you can use your phone or something to take a picture of where you're going in?

I'll keep trying in that area but I haven't been able to get anywhere. On the other hand, I was able to go over the falls. I'm going to keep experimenting with that, too. If going over that little waterfall is doable in a reliable manner, it's a tip for the guide so thanks for pointing it out.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on July 24, 2011, 12:19:56 PM
Yeah we should try that spot :)

I did some practicing on making a video while me and MrFotter practiced at Tanner's Reach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOWZ6Gp_yCQ
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on July 26, 2011, 08:04:46 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='441671' dateline='1311524396'

Yeah we should try that spot :)

I did some practicing on making a video while me and MrFotter practiced at Tanner's Reach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOWZ6Gp_yCQ


Aw man, Awesome video! I'd like to quote that in the guide and link to your video. That's cool with you, right?

Watching those cats jump into the water is one of the coolest things I've seen, yet. Boy did they get those animals right. They'd jump to their death to take you down!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on July 27, 2011, 04:22:04 AM
sure you can use it. Jumping cougars are fun :)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on July 27, 2011, 03:50:07 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='444693' dateline='1311754924'

sure you can use it. Jumping cougars are fun :)


Right on, mate. I'll update the post soon. Just wanted to add to that last comment: that's the kind of thing that keeps me going back into the water: you see the game do strange things "in response" to the glitch and it's just cool... or just plain fun, like you said.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on July 27, 2011, 04:56:36 PM
I actually have a video of a solo practice trip at Tanner's Reach, again with some overeager cougars :) I upload it in a few days I think. This could be my new favourite boating spot...

Right now, i'm at lake Don Julio. After laying still for a while I started moving back and forth, it's not the most spectaculiar ride but it is nice and quiet here :)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on July 28, 2011, 02:28:58 AM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='445278' dateline='1311800196'

I actually have a video of a solo practice trip at Tanner's Reach, again with some overeager cougars :) I upload it in a few days I think. This could be my new favourite boating spot...

Right now, I'm at lake Don Julio. After laying still for a while I started moving back and forth, it's not the most spectacular ride but it is nice and quiet here :)


You mean you're sailing the lake? And there's a current in it? I've always run the horses to their watery grave and stood still. Veeeeery still. That lake is kinda like Stillwater but without the name that warns you about what's going on, around there, you know?

If you can, mark an ex on the map and share with us where you're going in. I'm sure I'm not the only one to want to try 'em.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on July 28, 2011, 04:24:41 AM
i was sailling the lake yes, the current is minor. You maybe float around a bit but that's it.

Picture or video will be on tonight.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gringo_hunter on July 28, 2011, 02:11:25 PM
I managed to find a way to get down the waterfall before tanners span, I don't recommend this for new boaters as you go pretty fast a one point, also I would stick to singleplayer as you often get stuck. Anyway here's the video, apologies for the bad quality I used my iPod and also for my squeaky controller.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUV_l2vpfAI
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on July 28, 2011, 05:15:15 PM
Nice action BigDon :) I must try that sometimes.

Here's a picture of my two entry spots at Lake Don Julio. Both times I used the reverse-jump on top-shoot the horses entry.

Left X: the water isn't very deep so it takes a while before some movement occours. Once going, the going is slow. Eventually I was just slowly moving back and forth a few feet from shore.

Right X: it's a bit steeper here and you're on rock instead of grass so it's a bit bumpy here and there on the entry. There is more movement but it never get's exciting.
Slowly floated towards that bit of water at the top right of the lake, got stuck against the side.

(http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/VMB-TAN/UselessJunk/LakeDonJulioBoatingEntry.jpg)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MrFotter on July 28, 2011, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='446427' dateline='1311887715'

Nice action BigDon :) I must try that sometimes.

Here's a picture of my two entry spots at Lake Don Julio. Both times I used the reverse-jump on top-shoot the horses entry.

Left X: the water isn't very deep so it takes a while before some movement occours. Once going, the going is slow. Eventually I was just slowly moving back and forth a few feet from shore.

Right X: it's a bit steeper here and you're on rock instead of grass so it's a bit bumpy here and there on the entry. There is more movement but it never get's exciting.
Slowly floated towards that bit of water at the top right of the lake, got stuck against the side.

(http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/VMB-TAN/UselessJunk/LakeDonJulioBoatingEntry.jpg)


COOL did u get together today in the end and did massive rafting? u have a video?
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on July 29, 2011, 01:53:41 AM
no I was alone. Tonight we have planned a rafting tour :)

------------
Here's a video from my solo trip at Lake Don Julio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSaCIHcuOuQ


and a little one with some cougars at Tanner's Reach

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APb4NELt_To
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 03, 2011, 09:20:57 PM
Gringo and VMB, I've added your videos to the guide. Useful stuff; thanks. I also added a couple of very cool tips to the guide: how to transport into gaptooth breach to save a few minutes and the best, most unholy ass-kickin' time saver of 'em all: putting the stagecoach in full auto pilot so you can put down the controller and make yerself a sandwich.

All you folks with similar tips that can help with stagecoach boating, send 'em on!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: jci2297 on August 03, 2011, 09:43:02 PM
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Putting the stagecoach in auto-pilot. Set a path on the map to your destination, aim (L2), hit the X to accelerate to full speed and then hit START. You’re now in the menu and the coach will keep going, at speed, and one track. Now you’ve got to drive out of the hills of Gaptooth or the horses may loop back. Also, any turn over 90 degrees is likely to send the horses flying off course. So you have to keep an eye on it when it turns onto Armadillo’s main street, for example, but it’s awful convenient if you need to make yerself a sandwich.

Yeah I hate that it takes the easiest turn, not necesarily to your waypoint. Still, it is useful.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 04, 2011, 01:49:50 AM
Glad I could help. And yes, that auto pilot comes in real handy!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Rukus on August 04, 2011, 03:22:45 AM
I find having one of your posse mates jump at your coach with their horse to give it a push off shore works %70 of the time.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 04, 2011, 04:20:15 AM
yesterday I heard the fantastic idea from blackmetaldevil of taking your horse with you while boating :) never thought of that.
it's possible to jump on top with your horse but the problem is that you must be near the water. I tried at Thieves' Landing but when you park it on an angle (so it rolls in the water) i couldn't get on the roof only the part where you sit and that didn't work.
I gotta work this out :) would be great if a solo trip is possible.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gringo_hunter on August 04, 2011, 04:45:02 AM
I redone the video in better quality subovon here it is,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxe5RfQYwOw
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 04, 2011, 04:12:05 PM
(http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/VMB-TAN/UselessJunk/horseboating1-2.jpg)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: MrFotter on August 04, 2011, 04:26:49 PM
OMG respect!! lol i never thought of doing that
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on August 04, 2011, 07:02:17 PM
Hey fellas, i have some new tricks to share. There is a glitch where you can get the gatling gun coach and the stagecoach from "the escape" co-op mission and bring them back to free roam (look up "rdr how to get gun wagon in free roam"), something I was trying with bigdon last night was to see if there were 3 ppl in free roam and 2 ppl joined a posse and left to do "the escape" and get both carriages... then have the person who stayed behind invite the posse leader back, do the coaches still teleport from the co-op back to the free roam session? If this works I think it will make getting 16 stagecoaches for the record a lot quicker (could have 3 or 4 posses of 2 going and getting the coaches while the one person stays and does Gaptooth to get that carriage and sends invites to the others so when they are ready with the coaches they accept the invite and travel back with the coaches. We couldn't get anyone to join in last night to try it so I'll post this hoping some of you can try while i'm at work. More to come...
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on August 04, 2011, 08:22:16 PM
Another thing....I have been trying to track down the "white tent-top wagon" that is rumoured to be available in freeroam but very rare.... i have been doing my auto-drive trick with no marker just cruising around for hours trying to find where they spawn... I found the uncovered version (the same wagon without the white canvas but still has the rings on top) around Great Plains/Manzita Post. THIS WAGON WORKS!!! Even though it looks like it has gaps you will fall through you CAN stand on top. Also, I saw the video VMB-TAN did "submarining" with the standard wagon (no top) and found a launch spot at thieves landing where it will go almost all the way to "Old Bacchus Place" with just your head poking up above the water (at good speed too). I'm glad to see the pic of VMB-TAN with the horse on the stagecoach, dunno where you got on but my spot is really close to the launch spot at thieves landing. I will try to suss out how to upload video this weekend. More to come...
I have been to the very north of the map (above tall trees) where the river first starts and launched in the other day, I took bigdon down with me on one trip and we got stuck at the very edge of the waterfall. Not a bad trip although speed can vary. We (me & bigdon) got the gatling gun coach in at thieves landing by backing it in off the bridge, don was on the gun and was able to shoot, it was cool watching all the lanterns get shot with the gatling gun, it eventually sunk past the boats. Tomahawk fish.... along the thieves landing boat-ride there is a spot on the left before you go through the canyon part where you can throw tomahawks or knives and they get stuck in an invisible wall... if you throw them at the ramp-looking brown bank there they hit the slope and slide down into the water (knives sink) but the tomahawks will start floating and get carried in a current in front of you, after about 5-10 seconds they start "bouncing" on the water making them look like fish jumping out of the water. You get 10 tomahawks in freeroam and if you have a few of ya's throwing them you can get 30-40 "fish" jumping, looks cool. More to come...
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on August 04, 2011, 10:56:31 PM
Another simple trick when trying to scout out good launch locations is in some waters where there is a ripple/wave you can stand in the water on the edge and keep creeping forward until the water gets up to your head, sometimes you can see under the water to get an idea of what the terrain is like underneath, you can see where you may get stuck or where it may be too shallow. To test the current you can throw tomahawks in the water (as mentioned in previos post - they float) and see which way they go and how fast. I knew about boating ages ago, had a few trips and moved on, i saw this thread and it kick-started my interest again. Most of what I have posted I have discovered in the last week or two and am still trying other ideas so hopefully I will have more soon, i hope these tips help some of you have a bit more fun with boating. I am experimenting with riding the wagon upside-down (flipping it on entry) and jumping on, my thoughts behind this is to get clearance on some of the spots we all get stuck on - i think the timber piece at the front of the coach that attaches the horses is the piece that gets stuck the most. Let me know how you go with some of these ideas/tips, even if it's reasons why it didn't work, that can sometimes shed light on finding different ways to overcome obstacles. If anyone is keen to join me for some experimenting just send me a friend request - psn tag BlackMetalDevil (with a brief msg, i hate it when random's send ya a request with no reference as to what they want). Boating...the best glitch ever, Rockstar - Please don't ever patch this, it hurts no-one and it is a hell-of-a-good time!!!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 05, 2011, 04:31:26 AM
whoo quite a story :)

- the "white top tent" and the "ring" wagons work but only if the current is strong enough but they still won't work as good as a coach.
- We must try that co-op mission thing, if it works it'll save some time.
- i entered at the same place when we were boating a few days ago.
- north Tall Trees/ Great Plains can work but I failed/ got stuck many times :( I keep trying though.


See you around!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on August 05, 2011, 06:30:36 AM
Ok, few things to add, the wagons don't appear often at night near Manzanita Post/Great Plains. Tomahawks don't "always" float. The "rings" wagon technically does'nt float (it rolls along the bottom of the river) but if you jump on top of the "rings" immediately after the driver glitches to stand you are only knee high in water and get a good ride. If you park the wagon (not the stagecoach) paralell on the bridge up against the water then hop out and push it in with your horse it flips over and you can jump on and ride it. VMB, yes the stagecoach is the best but takes a lot of time to get and drive, so I'm trying to make the most of the easily available wagons. To get the best ride with the "submarine" enter in-between the big rock and little rock just to the left of the usual launch spot, shoot the horse on the left before you get between those rocks then creep down to the water (carefully - the horse remaining slides) then shoot the last horse and it rolls in nicely with a good speed. I'm still hopeful that the "co-op/invite" trick will work but no boaters i know are online so still waiting to confirm this but will be awesome if it does!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 05, 2011, 06:58:20 AM
I try to make the best off the wagons too, it's big fun most of the time. The normal ones for downhill carnage and the "tent top" and "ring" wagon for boating. It results in a decent surfing trip sometimes.
At night I almost never find any, nowhere by the way.

I've gotta try that flipping over thing sometimes :)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on August 05, 2011, 09:03:23 AM
HORSEBACK BOATING. In single player save at thieves landing (makes it easy to reload and retry if you stuff it up) then steal the stagecoach, kill all but the right closest horse, drive to the bridge and park so the horse and the stagecoach are facing the water you're gunna jump into, now shoot the last horse. Get a horse and slowly push the back of the coach just enough to get the front wheels over the edge of the bridge. The coach will slowly enter the water giving you time to line up the jump for your horse, when the coach is floating WALK your horse forward and jump onto the coach/boat (it should be floating so you have the length of the boat to land), then hold R1 to stop the horse. If you did it right you should now be sitting on your horse on top of a floating stagecoach. Hold R1 to try to keep the horse stationary, you may need to make slight adjustments.... carefully. If your horse is sturdy with all four legs on you can safely rear-up your horse which looks cool. When you get up to brown slope/ramp do the tomohawk fish trick (you get 20 in single player) and enjoy watching the fish from horseback on a boat. When you get stuck at the same spot we always stop, try to kill your horse so the dead horse will fall between the coach and the wall and push you back into a current. Or you can then use the horse to position his weight at the front left and slowly get moving again. This can also be done in multiplayer but risky if you suck at jumping, alternatively the little cliffs across the bridge are a bit harder to get the horse on top but safer coz you get more than one try but you will need someone to drive you in. Thanx VMB for posting a pic of you horseback boating to show it being done, i need to sort myself out and get pics and vidz for ya's to see some of what i have been trying. If you don't press any buttons for 1 minute or so, the camera will pan to a further away shot of you (get your horse steady before trying this) and you will have a nice scenic view of yourself horseback boating. What are you waiting for??? GO GET HORSEBACK BOATING!!!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 05, 2011, 09:14:26 AM
isn't the cinematic camera only in SP? It does work with a wagon/ cart/ coach in MP when your weapon is holstered.

I'll upload a video later today of my first ever horseback boating adventure :)


EDIT

Horseback Boating:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qah5DlKwLs


Tall Trees Submarine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc4HcAnyzK0
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 05, 2011, 02:31:29 PM
Just did some more horseback boating at the Great Plains. It went pretty well untill I got stuck... 10 mintues later of being stuck my horse just dropped dead leaving me drowned... :(
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: R_E_Dead_NaTive on August 05, 2011, 02:56:14 PM
Quote from: 'BlackMetalDevil' pid='453641' dateline='1312498937'

Hey fellas, i have some new tricks to share. There is a glitch where you can get the gatling gun coach and the stagecoach from "the escape" co-op mission and bring them back to free roam (look up "rdr how to get gun wagon in free roam"), something I was trying with bigdon last night was to see if there were 3 ppl in free roam and 2 ppl joined a posse and left to do "the escape" and get both carriages... then have the person who stayed behind invite the posse leader back, do the coaches still teleport from the co-op back to the free roam session? If this works I think it will make getting 16 stagecoaches for the record a lot quicker (could have 3 or 4 posses of 2 going and getting the coaches while the one person stays and does Gaptooth to get that carriage and sends invites to the others so when they are ready with the coaches they accept the invite and travel back with the coaches. We couldn't get anyone to join in last night to try it so I'll post this hoping some of you can try while i'm at work. More to come...


i tried that awhile  back! didnt work for me
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 05, 2011, 05:57:21 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='454035' dateline='1312550066'


I'll upload a video later today of my first ever horseback boating adventure :)



I swear... I'll be damned if that's not one of the coolest things I've seen anybody do with this game. I request footage and a beautiful, high-res stills of someone rearing their horse on top a boat! I ain't got no capture card but I'm gonna spend all night (probably) trying it out. Yeeehaw!

Quote from: 'BlackMetalDevil' pid='454031' dateline='1312549403'

HORSEBACK BOATING. In single player save at thieves landing (makes it easy to reload and retry if you stuff it up) then steal the stagecoach, kill all but the right closest horse, drive to the bridge and park so the horse and the stagecoach are facing the water you're gunna jump into, now shoot the last horse. Get a horse and slowly push the back of the coach just enough to get the front wheels over the edge of the bridge. The coach will slowly enter the water giving you time to line up the jump for your horse, when the coach is floating WALK your horse forward and jump onto the coach/boat (it should be floating so you have the length of the boat to land), then hold R1 to stop the horse. If you did it right you should now be sitting on your horse on top of a floating stagecoach. Hold R1 to try to keep the horse stationary, you may need to make slight adjustments.... carefully. If your horse is sturdy with all four legs on you can safely rear-up your horse which looks cool. When you get up to brown slope/ramp do the tomohawk fish trick (you get 20 in single player) and enjoy watching the fish from horseback on a boat. When you get stuck at the same spot we always stop, try to kill your horse so the dead horse will fall between the coach and the wall and push you back into a current. Or you can then use the horse to position his weight at the front left and slowly get moving again. This can also be done in multiplayer but risky if you suck at jumping, alternatively the little cliffs across the bridge are a bit harder to get the horse on top but safer coz you get more than one try but you will need someone to drive you in. Thanx VMB for posting a pic of you horseback boating to show it being done, i need to sort myself out and get pics and vidz for ya's to see some of what i have been trying. If you don't press any buttons for 1 minute or so, the camera will pan to a further away shot of you (get your horse steady before trying this) and you will have a nice scenic view of yourself horseback boating. What are you waiting for??? GO GET HORSEBACK BOATING!!!


My friend, I have to say that I've seen people put a horse on top of a boat before. However, it was always because they were trying to dislodge a stagecoach and ended up on top by accident. I've never seen anyone stay on, however. They've always laughed and fallen off right quick. It's just so unexpected, you know? So as far as I know, you're the first captain to ride and sail on purpose. Regardless, it's awesome.

Flipping the boat over is something I need to add to the guide along with Horseback Stagecoach Boating. I'm going to try both out and get a feel for how they work. They definitely belong in a "Advanced sailors" section, though, that's for sure.

Quote from: 'gringo_hunter' pid='452955' dateline='1312447502'

I redone the video in better quality subovon here it is,




That is fantastic. And the quick look at the map is extremely useful to all of us, Thanks, Gringo!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 05, 2011, 07:22:18 PM
Because of your demand I uploaded my Great Plains trip. It took me three minutes to gain a decent speed and 2,5 minutes later it was over...
And still, I loved every second :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ABtHcgA9I
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 05, 2011, 07:29:25 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='454528' dateline='1312586538'

Because of your demand I uploaded my Great Plains trip. It took me three minutes to gain a decent speed and 2,5 minutes later it was over...
And still, I loved every second :)



You make it look downright easy which is awesome. You're a regular beastmaster, too. You're always surrounded by hungry critters.

I've noticed you like the Volcanic. You're one of the few players I've encountered who pack that by choice.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 05, 2011, 07:43:53 PM
It's been going well the last few days but remember the power of editing ;)

The volcanic? The volcanic is just such a nice pistol.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 05, 2011, 07:53:35 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='454542' dateline='1312587833'

It's been going well the last few days but remember the power of editing ;)

The volcanic? The volcanic is just such a nice pistol.


What's your editing software of choice?

I've always liked the volcanic. It's the first cool and different weapon you get in the single player game. Unfortunately, unless you're in close quarters and are good at aiming, it's outclassed pretty fast in multiplayer. The latter ain't a problem for me. I like ducking and running around. The former, thought... I'm all thumbs with the controller and when one is a medium threat like me, one stays warm with a double-action or a LeMat.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 06, 2011, 04:56:59 AM
plain and simple windows movie maker :) but for the last two videos i only removed one try each time, second jump was gold both times.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 06, 2011, 09:42:55 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='454755' dateline='1312621019'

plain and simple windows movie maker :)


Awesome. Does it do the rolling credits, too? I'd like to know how you get that font.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on August 07, 2011, 02:28:51 AM
Can anyone tell me how to upload a pic? I don't have a pc, all my posts are typed on my phone, i am about to post a very detailed piece on some more tips and would be a lot easier if i could put some pics to explain it better. In the text box i can't find where to add attachments.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gringo_hunter on August 07, 2011, 03:02:51 AM
You have make an account on a website like photobucket, then you upload the photos to photobucket, then copy the photos URL and put them in image bracket things like this


(http://photourl)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on August 07, 2011, 04:49:29 AM
getting the gatling gun and stagecoach via invite DOES WORK!! heres how... Have one person in PRIVATE free roam, have two people in a separate PRIVATE free roam form a posse and then go to "the escape" co-op mission. Clear the first wave of enemies so you get the stagecoach and gatling gun (get on the gatling gun wagon first before the other person gets on the stagecoach) then set a marker for Ridgewood Farm. Drive over to the left until you get on a road that will bypass the yellow mission checkpoint. kill the guys on horseback before you get to Ridgewood. When you get to Ridgewood Farm, park the first wagon where you would stop if you played "the kidnapped girl" and park the second wagon behind it leaving about a wagons distance between them. Have the single person in PRIVATE free roam send an invite (this should be sent earlier so when the other two get the wagons to Ridgewood they can accept as soon as they are ready to teleport). Stay seated on the wagons and have the posse leader accept the invite, make sure the other person in the posse is touching nothing on the controller, safe bet is to tell them to put the controller down. After accepting the invite you will change sessions to where the single person is (who should be doing gaptooth to get that stagecoach while the two were getting the other wagons) you will spawn at Ridgewood Farm and both the gatling gun wagon and the stagecoach will be where you parked them. You should now have two stagecoaches and a gatling gun wagon. If you have more posses of two doing this, stagger the invites so the first group has time to move the wagons from Ridgewood Farm. Doing this trick will result in getting 12 stagecoaches and 4 gatling gun wagons in around 20 minutes. To launch the gatling gun i find it best to enter between the rocks before the bridge at thieves landing, shoot all but the front right horse, WALK the last horse to the water and it usually stops right before going in, shoot it then and it will roll nicely into the water. be careful when aiming the gatling gun as it is heavy and sometimes tips the wagon on its side (eg. if you stay focused on the right it can cause the wagon to tilt to the right). You can also get the gatling gun and stagecoach to a public free roam by doing the same method (PRIVATE co-op "the escape") and then have someone invite you from public free roam, very funny hearing peoples reactions when they see you with a gatling gun in free roam. I'm in Australia and am on at different times than most of the regulars visiting this site, still, i hope i can be on to try the rafting record with ya's, or at least know i helped make it happen with some of my tips/posts. VMB, that looks like a less riskier way to get the horse on top than how i described i do it, but i see you fell off near the boats... have you had better runs since then? my way gets me to bacchus 99% of the time (providing i make the initial jump haha). If anyone is struggling to understand any of what i post just ask and I will try to explain it better.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 07, 2011, 05:52:16 AM
My way isn't that risky, take it slow and jump. It was the only run so far at Thieves' Landing.

"or at least know i helped make it happen with some of my tips/posts" sorry, but you didn't make it happen, people are boating for over a year now. Providing tips is something different then "make it happen" ;)


@ Subovon: yeah it does the rolling credits, you can choose a few different styles. Link to the font: http://www.dafont.com/chinese-rocks.font
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on August 07, 2011, 08:40:33 AM
By "make it happen" I mean achieving an "unofficial" rafting record, 16 ppl + 16 boats, it'd look mad!! I am in no way trying to claim patent rights on boating, just trying to help coz i wanna see that video of 16 ppl all sailing boats down a river, gunna be a good show.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 07, 2011, 10:36:41 AM
oh ok, that's a good thing. My mistake.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: rouge marshal on August 09, 2011, 05:43:18 PM
Quote from: 'Legion' pid='274790' dateline='1295284985'

HOLY BISCUITS!

I love you!

I must sail to the new world and destroy what is left of those savage indians!


america is the new world dumbass :lipsrsealed2::whip:
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: jci2297 on August 09, 2011, 06:10:52 PM
Quote from: 'rouge marshal' pid='457640' dateline='1312926198'

Quote from: 'Legion' pid='274790' dateline='1295284985'

HOLY BISCUITS!

I love you!

I must sail to the new world and destroy what is left of those savage indians!


america is the new world dumbass :lipsrsealed2::whip:


:huh:
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on August 10, 2011, 05:21:56 AM
Another lil' trick to try... google "speed glitch red dead redemption" and there is a vid that is 3:37 mins long by a dude called DAMIEN. It doubles the speed of wagons and horses! takes a couple of tries to get the hang of but when ya do get it enjoy the ride. Normal speed gets me from Gaptooth to Thieves landing in 7 minutes, turbo i get there in 4 minutes, a lot more fun to drive, just need some Benny Hill music to go with it haha. If you aim ya gun after "activating" this glitch it will go back to normal speed, if you launch the "boat" while still in the speed glitch you travel twice as fast on the water too! TURBO BOATING!!!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gringo_hunter on August 10, 2011, 05:51:38 AM
Sounds fun, will need to try it sometime.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 10, 2011, 06:48:15 AM
definately :)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Rukus on August 10, 2011, 06:48:36 AM
Quote from: 'BlackMetalDevil' pid='458059' dateline='1312968116'
Another lil' trick to try... google "speed glitch red dead redemption" and there is a vid that is 3:37 mins long by a dude called DAMIEN. It doubles the speed of wagons and horses! takes a couple of tries to get the hang of but when ya do get it enjoy the ride. Normal speed gets me from Gaptooth to Thieves landing in 7 minutes, turbo i get there in 4 minutes, a lot more fun to drive, just need some Benny Hill music to go with it haha. If you aim ya gun after "activating" this glitch it will go back to normal speed, if you launch the "boat" while still in the speed glitch you travel twice as fast on the water too! TURBO BOATING!!!

Best glitch ever but unfortunately it will be fixed in the next week or so (you need to do invincible for it to work :( )
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on August 10, 2011, 07:03:38 AM
Rukus, i don't know how to do the invincible thing and it still worked for me today when i tried it, is your psn tag Rukus? i'll send a mates request if ya keen and we'll do some boating.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Rukus on August 10, 2011, 08:28:02 AM
Quote from: 'BlackMetalDevil' pid='458100' dateline='1312974218'
Rukus, i don't know how to do the invincible thing and it still worked for me today when i tried it, is your psn tag Rukus? i'll send a mates request if ya keen and we'll do some boating.

Rukus723 actually, and the super speed glitch is just a varient of the invincible glitch, and Rockstar said they'd patch that glitch in the next title patch before Myths And Mavericks comes out.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 12, 2011, 12:27:50 AM
Quote from: 'Rukus' pid='458158' dateline='1312979282'

The super speed glitch is just a variant of the invincible glitch, and Rockstar said they'd patch that glitch in the next title patch before Myths And Mavericks comes out.


Could you explain how you mean? I'm genuinely interested in figuring out how the two are related.

Quote from: 'BlackMetalDevil' pid='458059' dateline='1312968116'

Another lil' trick to try...


Lots of tricks - that's what you've shared and we thank you, mate. I'm going to add the Gatling Gun "import" and horseback boating to the guide. It was great going out with you the other night. Thanks for teaching me all those new tricks.

Come to think of it, I've met many of the contributors to this thread and I'll be damned if they weren't all very cool and polite. Now there's two qualities you don't see much of and aint' that the truth? Maybe there's something about Stagecoach boating that means you're psychologically sound or something.

Bumper sticker: "Nice People Go Stagecoach Boating (even if they know how to shoot you in the head)"
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 12, 2011, 04:23:41 AM
I want that bumper sticker :)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on August 12, 2011, 06:14:22 AM
Gringo_Hunter is organising an unofficial rafting record (search "unofficial rafting record") and the goal is to get 16 ppl on 16 stagecoaches all boating at the same time. It appears we have about 10 ppl able to participate but still need a few more to make it to 16. It will start in 12 hours, so if you have sailed enough to be trusted not to stuff up please express interest at the thread i mentioned above. VMB will be using a capture card to record this epic event and no doubt there will be a link to the vid on this thread when finished, so come secure your place in Red Dead stagecoach boating history!!!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 12, 2011, 04:09:06 PM
Quote from: 'BlackMetalDevil' pid='459911' dateline='1313144062'

Gringo_Hunter is organising an unofficial rafting record (search "unofficial rafting record") and the goal is to get 16 ppl on 16 stagecoaches all boating at the same time. It appears we have about 10 ppl able to participate but still need a few more to make it to 16. It will start in 12 hours, so if you have sailed enough to be trusted not to stuff up please express interest at the thread i mentioned above. VMB will be using a capture card to record this epic event and no doubt there will be a link to the vid on this thread when finished, so come secure your place in Red Dead stagecoach boating history!!!


That thread is here (http://www.reddead.net/forums/thread-the-unofficial-rafting-record-attempt?highlight=rafting%2Brecord).

I won't be able to make this one either but I'm looking forward to the video. I challenge someone to go in on their horse.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 12, 2011, 04:29:13 PM
i'm itchy now thanks to you.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 12, 2011, 04:51:43 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='460471' dateline='1313180953'

i'm itchy now thanks to you.


If there's a dude who can do it, it's you. Hell, I was even able to pull it off with the help of BlackMetalDevil. He showed me how to "climb" on top of the corral in Thieves' Landing. If you don't know what I'm talking about, ask him. It's very easy to get the horse on top of the stagecoach from there. I'm planning on putting together another little video guide so if you get some footage, maybe I can "steal" some of it.

As far as I know, you two have become the reigning river masters with those new tricks. We need to plan on getting the three of us out there together, some time.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Rukus on August 12, 2011, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: 'Subovon' pid='459782' dateline='1313123270'
Quote from: 'Rukus' pid='458158' dateline='1312979282'
The super speed glitch is just a variant of the invincible glitch, and Rockstar said they'd patch that glitch in the next title patch before Myths And Mavericks comes out.

Could you explain how you mean? I'm genuinely interested in figuring out how the two are related.

Both glitches involve exploiting dead eye, a specific weapon that will remain nameless, and rolling together. If you did the same thing without aiming at a horse you would be doing the invincibility glitch. Therefore its likely it will be patched with the next title update.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: R_E_Dead_NaTive on August 12, 2011, 10:45:31 PM
Quote from: 'Rukus' pid='460828' dateline='1313203452'

Quote from: 'Subovon' pid='459782' dateline='1313123270'

Quote from: 'Rukus' pid='458158' dateline='1312979282'

The super speed glitch is just a variant of the invincible glitch, and Rockstar said they'd patch that glitch in the next title patch before Myths And Mavericks comes out.


Could you explain how you mean? I'm genuinely interested in figuring out how the two are related.


Both glitches involve exploiting dead eye, a specific weapon that will remain nameless, and rolling together. If you did the same thing without aiming at a horse you would be doing the invincibility glitch. Therefore its likely it will be patched with the next title update.
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if this shit aint patched! ima quit and just play MK lol
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: stevethetree on August 13, 2011, 12:34:23 PM
"I'm on a boat" = Best rafting title ever.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: stevethetree on August 13, 2011, 12:34:23 PM
"I'm on a boat" = Best rafting title ever.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gringo_hunter on August 14, 2011, 01:52:48 PM
Here's the video for the unofficial rafting record filmed by VMB-TAN, enjoy :D



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7heKQpmSaEs
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: aaronimpactnz on August 14, 2011, 02:47:36 PM
That looked pretty cool.

I tried doing this yesterday but the stage coach only got a few metres before it got stuck on the bank.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: calendd on August 15, 2011, 03:24:12 AM
And how can I be a carriage horse? (Rarely seen)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 15, 2011, 04:17:43 AM
how you can be a carriage horse? You can't.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: LegendKiller on August 16, 2011, 04:49:51 AM
Why isn't this a Sticky, moderators?
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on August 16, 2011, 10:59:38 AM
Just took my black bull on its maiden voyage all the way from dixons crossing to old bacchus place!! Bigdon drove the the coach in (thanx m8) but fell off coz the big black bull takes up a lot of room. I think he recorded it and will put it up soon so you can see where/how. Next time i'm gunna use a white buffalo. The coach was going underwater a bit near the canyon before bacchus coz of the extra weight of the bull, which do you think would be heavier... black bull or buffalo?
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gringo_hunter on August 16, 2011, 01:55:52 PM
Yeah it was quite funny, we should try a donkey, I'll have the video up tomorrow.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 16, 2011, 02:10:31 PM
Sounds like fun! It might work if you stay at the point you are normally sitting?

BTW, got a capture card?! :)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gringo_hunter on August 16, 2011, 03:01:56 PM
No I just used my high quality filming device (phone)...
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gringo_hunter on August 16, 2011, 05:55:39 PM
Heres the video of bull rafting


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyMj8_Y4KEw

Unfortunately I got knocked off the stagecoach, so I just kinda watched.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: RhymeSmoke on August 17, 2011, 12:39:55 AM
^ classic
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: calendd on August 17, 2011, 08:51:31 AM
I was wrong - where  I find a carriage?
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: stevethetree on August 17, 2011, 09:19:39 PM
Gaptooth Breach hideout in multiplayer, most towns in single player.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Four-Flusher on August 17, 2011, 10:09:06 PM
Awesome job OP! :exclamation:

(http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/oo13/coydogpics/bump.gif)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 18, 2011, 02:08:05 AM
Quote from: 'BlackMetalDevil' pid='464079' dateline='1313506778'

Just took my black bull on its maiden voyage all the way from dixons crossing to old bacchus place!! [...]
The coach was going underwater a bit near the canyon before bacchus coz of the extra weight of the bull, which do you think would be heavier... black bull or buffalo?


Awesome! I'd bet the buffalo and super bull are close to the same weight in the game. Can a mount and the perfect launch get us over the falls? Hadn't thought of that, since I figure I was heavy enough to get caught all by myself. Oh yeah, and until you showed me how to do it, it hadn't even occurred to me to even try getting on with my horse. I'm way too clumsy to think in that direction.

Little known fact: the white buffalo is the lightest mount in the game since it's a marshmallow.

Quote from: 'gringo_hunter' pid='462098' dateline='1313344368'

Here's the video for the unofficial rafting record filmed by VMB-TAN, enjoy :D



That looks like a bunch of fun. I hope I can join in the next one.

VMB-TAN, I love the opening sequence. Nice job and the video looks so good you may be responsible for me getting one of those capture cards. Hot damn.

Quote from: 'Rukus' pid='460828' dateline='1313203452'


Both glitches involve exploiting dead eye, a specific weapon that will remain nameless, and rolling together. If you did the same thing without aiming at a horse you would be doing the invincibility glitch. Therefore its likely it will be patched with the next title update.


Oh; duh! My friend, if you aim and shoot as good as you observe and conclude, I'd rather we played on the same team, if that's cool. :idea:

Quote from: 'stevethetree' pid='461244' dateline='1313253263'

"I'm on a boat" = Best rafting title ever.


Just about the only you need.

Quote from: 'aaronimpactnz' pid='462134' dateline='1313347656'


I tried doing this yesterday but the stage coach only got a few metres before it got stuck on the bank.


Check out the video guide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EupyO3Shtso&feature=email&email=comment_received). Do it this way and you're going downriver guaranteed.



And finally @LegendKiller and @Four-Flusher: Thank y'all.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 18, 2011, 04:25:53 AM
Thanks a lot :) it took me 3 hours to make, but i'm happy with the result.

You, you just get a capture card... Quick... ;)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 18, 2011, 01:46:35 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='465835' dateline='1313655953'

Thanks a lot :) it took me 3 hours to make, but i'm happy with the result.

You, you just get a capture card... Quick... ;)


I get home tonight or tomorrow so not only will I be able to take to the prairie again, I'll be able to order that thing. I know you've taken the time to answer this question but maybe you can save me the search: what did you buy? It's so good, I figure I might as well get the same one. You're recording right off an HDMI cable, aren't you?
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gringo_hunter on August 18, 2011, 02:20:32 PM
Don't know if anyone has tried this before but I went horse boating on the great plains river today, here's the video.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI2_aJ0_cUA
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 18, 2011, 02:41:44 PM
Oh lovely BigDon! I did that a few days ago, the video is on YouTube and here somewhere... I got stuck at the same point as you :)

@ Subovon: Great news :)

I record with a Hauppauge HD PVR. Which is actually a capture device instead of a capture card (a card which you put in your PC, like a video or soundcard)
It's only connectable via component cables, not a HDMI cable. Still it puts out 1280x720. Recording software is Arcsoft Media (install CD is included with the device)
I use Windows Movie Maker to edit (the other programs are too difficult for me) and let's me save videos in 1080i, not bad :)

Make sure you also have an AV multi cable to connect your PS3, it's not included with the device.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 23, 2011, 03:56:47 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='466331' dateline='1313692904'


@ Subovon: Great news :)

I record with a Hauppauge HD PVR. Which is actually a capture device instead of a capture card (a card which you put in your PC, like a video or soundcard)
It's only connectable via component cables, not a HDMI cable. Still it puts out 1280x720. Recording software is Arcsoft Media (install CD is included with the device)
I use Windows Movie Maker to edit (the other programs are too difficult for me) and let's me save videos in 1080i, not bad :)

Make sure you also have an AV multi cable to connect your PS3, it's not included with the device.



All right, thanks for the advice. I've got the card. I went for an internal PCI card since I'd rather capture directly into the computer. Now I need to bust that thing open and install it and test. I may be ready for Friday and I'm almost certain I'll be able to join in for the next record attempt. I'll get around to updating the guide, too.

Anyone learn any new tricks while I've been away?

And don't forget to check out this thread (http://www.reddead.net/forums/thread-the-unofficial-rafting-record-attempt) to participate in this Friday's attempt.

It's for PS3 users and of course, it begs the question: how come Stagecoach Boating hasn't caught on like this in Xboxes? Maybe it's more like a secret society or somethin'.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 23, 2011, 04:36:24 PM
I'm looking forward to your videos :) hope it runs friday!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 25, 2011, 11:00:26 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='471565' dateline='1314131784'

I'm looking forward to your videos :) hope it runs friday!


Well it's gonna be a close shave. I'm missing that doohickey that connects from the back of the PS3 to give you HD component out. Just. Like. You. Said. It wasn't in the box. I'll make a stop and get one.

But then there's that problem I've got about getting back into town to be a part of this thing. I'll be drivin' a little fast. Thankfully, my car is low to the ground when it's not a stagecoach. I should make it, even if I'm a little late.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on August 26, 2011, 01:57:25 AM
no problem with being a little late :)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Rossco979 on August 29, 2011, 02:45:51 PM
my fav spot is the little island in between bridges going to mexico. just go to the american side of the island and theres a steep hill! :D
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Marston334 on August 30, 2011, 11:43:23 AM
Cheers, helped alot.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 31, 2011, 12:13:18 AM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='473514' dateline='1314338245'

no problem with being a little late :)


I'm sorry I didn't make it, captain. Turns out it would be a few days more before I'd be near a PS3 again.


Quote from: 'Rossco979' pid='476156' dateline='1314643551'

my fav spot is the little island in between bridges going to mexico. just go to the american side of the island and theres a steep hill! :D


How far do you usually get?

@Marston334: You're most welcome.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on September 01, 2011, 05:44:25 PM
A few nights ago we proved we can get 16 stagecoaches in one session and we are attempting the record again tonight (16 people on 16 stagecoaches), we need a few more willing sailors to board a few empty stagecoaches so if you have sailed Thieves Landing before and want to be a part of this event please express your interest at the thread titled "unnofficial rafting record". (I apologise Subovon for trying to recruit from your thread, hope you're ok with it, I can delete/edit later if you wish).
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Stark on September 01, 2011, 10:14:30 PM
ive tryed stage baoting a few times on both singleplayer and free roam and its not easy hey, sure ive got the stage in to the water and my charactor auto jumps out then jumps back on but the stage dosnt move more than a few feet forward and most of the time at an angle.... maybe im entering the water at the wrong location, iv mostly been trying great planes but i may try the basin at tall trees as you can walk all the way across the basin, i might be able to ride the stage down the rapids there.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on September 02, 2011, 01:47:04 AM
Aurora's Basin won't work due to a lack of current. I never managed though.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on September 04, 2011, 07:41:08 PM
Quote from: 'BlackMetalDevil' pid='478618' dateline='1314913465'

A few nights ago we proved we can get 16 stagecoaches in one session and we are attempting the record again tonight (16 people on 16 stagecoaches), we need a few more willing sailors to board a few empty stagecoaches so if you have sailed Thieves Landing before and want to be a part of this event please express your interest at the thread titled "unnofficial rafting record". (I apologise Subovon for trying to recruit from your thread, hope you're ok with it, I can delete/edit later if you wish).


Hell no, I don't mind, mate. This here's our thread. I'm just the dude who started it.

I'm sorry I didn't make the attempt. I read it was a better one. Maybe I'll get to make it out with y'all some time. If not, we always do good when we team up, too.

@ VMB-TAN As usual, kudos on a cool video. I've been swamped and out of town a lot but I'm gonna update the OP one of these days and I'm definitely including your Youtube channel in the new section I'm planning. That and some of BlackMetalDevil's awesome antics.

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ive tryed stage baoting a few times on both singleplayer and free roam and its not easy hey, sure ive got the stage in to the water and my charactor auto jumps out then jumps back on but the stage dosnt move more than a few feet forward and most of the time at an angle.... maybe im entering the water at the wrong location,


Yeah, you have. The basin looks like the perfect spot, though, right? I know I tried it a dozen times. You can walk straight across its northern part. You get water to your belly button but you don't drown. And that's where it confirms what VMB said: no current. All along that waterway, it's tough going. Read the guide and try launching from Thieves' Landing. You're guaranteed to have fun from there and it's the easiest entry point.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on September 05, 2011, 04:30:24 AM
if someone's on a coach in Aurora's Basin, another one can push him with a horse maybe :)
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Post by: Stark on September 05, 2011, 09:21:45 PM
I still can't find the right spot, theives landing dosnt have much of a current, though i did discover something funny,  i threw tomahawks at the stage coach and water and they were flopping, flipping and leaping out of the water like fish LMAO and they did this for aslong as i was on the stage coach wich was about 5 minutes.    Well, ill keep trying, looks like fun once it gets going but so far everywhere ive tried thre stagecoach dosnt move more than a few feet forward, atleast untell i get off then in gets going.
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Post by: VMB-TAN on September 06, 2011, 01:57:34 AM
you sure you picked the right spot?
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Post by: aFinn on September 06, 2011, 05:25:02 AM
Here's a pic VMB made and posted in another thread. From these launch spots you get good current.

(http://i538.photobucket.com/albums/ff342/VMB-TAN/UselessJunk/thieveslandingentry-1.jpg)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on September 13, 2011, 02:24:09 AM
I'm not going to be able to get on the new maps for a few days but god almighty - somebody tell me R* didn't sink our boats! Even after installing the patch and the new DLC, we can still go stagecoach boating, right?
Or did they throw an iceberg at us?
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gringo_hunter on September 13, 2011, 02:26:06 AM
They patched it.... :( :( :( Lol joke, you can still boat and you can still get the coaches out of co op so I'm happy :D
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Post by: lew2hig on September 13, 2011, 03:48:47 PM
Cheers for this, it's given me hours of fun! Hell, I signed up to this forum to display my gratitude haha! Anyone up for some boating add me:

PSN: lew2hig
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on September 14, 2011, 02:39:59 AM
Quote from: 'gringo_hunter' pid='486377' dateline='1315895166'

They patched it.... :( :( :( Lol joke, you can still boat and you can still get the coaches out of co op so I'm happy :D


ACK! :uhoh2:

Oh... Oh, OK, you had me going there for half a sentence. Thanks for the scare and the update, buddy!

Quote from: 'lew2hig' pid='486894' dateline='1315943327'

Cheers for this, it's given me hours of fun! Hell, I signed up to this forum to display my gratitude haha! Anyone up for some boating add me:

PSN: lew2hig


Well that's just awesome. Hope to see you on the river, buddy.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on September 14, 2011, 04:22:58 AM
I hope the new DLC won't take people away from free roam too much, cause I definately wanna try another record :)

@ lew2hig: alright cool, ever took your horse with you? :D
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Post by: lew2hig on September 14, 2011, 01:02:35 PM
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Quote from: 'gringo_hunter' pid='486377' dateline='1315895166'

They patched it.... :( :( :( Lol joke, you can still boat and you can still get the coaches out of co op so I'm happy :D


ACK! :uhoh2:

Oh... Oh, OK, you had me going there for half a sentence. Thanks for the scare and the update, buddy!

Quote from: 'lew2hig' pid='486894' dateline='1315943327'

Cheers for this, it's given me hours of fun! Hell, I signed up to this forum to display my gratitude haha! Anyone up for some boating add me:

PSN: lew2hig


Well that's just awesome. Hope to see you on the river, buddy.


Same here, as I bet you're a right sailor when it comes to rafting!
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='487410' dateline='1315988578'

I hope the new DLC won't take people away from free roam too much, cause I definately wanna try another record :)

@ lew2hig: alright cool, ever took your horse with you? :D


I haven't taken my horse with me no, is it any good?
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Post by: VMB-TAN on September 14, 2011, 01:20:33 PM
It's even better ;)
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Post by: lew2hig on September 14, 2011, 01:27:22 PM
Cool, I've gotta learn these things. You guys gotta add me haha! Especially as it's triple xp today!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on September 14, 2011, 01:42:09 PM
I don't care for XP ;) but we can go boating offcourse, maybe do some rooftops... :D

Also, check out this thread: http://www.reddead.net/forums/thread-the-unofficial-rafting-record-attempt

Are you on PS3 by the way? Cause I am.
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Post by: lew2hig on September 14, 2011, 02:07:07 PM
Yep PS3, my account is lew2hig. :)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on September 17, 2011, 07:49:39 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='487410' dateline='1315988578'

I hope the new DLC won't take people away from free roam too much, cause I definately wanna try another record :)

@ lew2hig: alright cool, ever took your horse with you? :D


Well it did it to me, that's for sure. I did go into single-player just to make sure the coach still floats. All is good as reported. Hell, 'ya never know with programmers!

Anyway, VMB, man... how did you get that horse on top of that train?  :2thumbsup:
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Strikeforce000 on September 18, 2011, 05:38:29 PM
GUYS IVE FOUND A WAY TO RAFT MANTECA FALLS!!! First grab astage coach and go to Old Bacchus Place, then just drive off the docks, i dont know how any one thought of this before! Manteca Falls one is for Expert rafters only because i cant do it.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on September 19, 2011, 04:19:01 AM
oh i've thought about it, it didn't work. There is no current there. Only way is to ride down the cliff further up and hope you will stay alive.

@ Subovon: from the little tunnel between Las Hermanas and Casa Madrugada. Thanks to TheCyborg and Slug_Magnet.
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Post by: Alphapug on September 19, 2011, 12:31:22 PM
I meant to post this here months ago! My stagecoach boating song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31nWqk5-8mo
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on September 19, 2011, 12:54:18 PM
hehe not bad, how is it at Mad Mens Isle? :)
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Post by: Alphapug on September 19, 2011, 01:15:10 PM
Mad fun, of course! ;)
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Post by: Subovon on September 21, 2011, 07:42:11 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='490948' dateline='1316420341'

oh i've thought about it, it didn't work. There is no current there. Only way is to ride down the cliff further up and hope you will stay alive.

@ Subovon: from the little tunnel between Las Hermanas and Casa Madrugada. Thanks to TheCyborg and Slug_Magnet.


Well it makes for one cool signature. Someone should write a guide about riding trains.

Quote from: 'Strikeforce000' pid='490617' dateline='1316381909'

GUYS IVE FOUND A WAY TO RAFT MANTECA FALLS!!! First grab astage coach and go to Old Bacchus Place, then just drive off the docks, i dont know how any one thought of this before! Manteca Falls one is for Expert rafters only because i cant do it.


I've gone in from there and I've never been able to make it further than a few meters. I think VMB is correct on this one but by all means, prove us wrong.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on September 24, 2011, 12:41:52 PM
I had a nice view while drowning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oethfJtXri8
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on October 08, 2011, 09:03:34 PM
Had a go at Stillwater Creek. Only lasted 100 yards or so... Maybe it's in the name ;) Entered on the northside of Mason's Bridge.

Anyone got any experience at this spot?
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on October 23, 2011, 01:52:19 AM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='502605' dateline='1318122214'

Had a go at Stillwater Creek. Only lasted 100 yards or so... Maybe it's in the name ;) Entered on the northside of Mason's Bridge.

Anyone got any experience at this spot?


That's actually one of my favorite spots. I've gone down those rapids many, many times and I've always gotten stuck in Stillwater. Aptly named, if you ask me.

It's a bunch of fun to drive down the steep hill into the water. You get in and HANG ON, the rapids are right there! They're among the fastest and it's a short, rough ride that you don't always survive so there's some suspense. Highly recommended as a no excuse bit of fun, especially in single player.

'Matter of fact, I like this spot so much, I just realized that's where the picture I put at the top of the guide is from and it also opens the video guide (http://youtu.be/EupyO3Shtso). It's a total coincidence but it's tellin'.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on October 23, 2011, 05:27:29 AM
I actually tried further up too, after Montana Ford. Lasted only for a short time though :(

It is a nice place, quiet, nice surrounding. Quite relaxing!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on October 23, 2011, 06:00:05 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='509608' dateline='1319362049'
I actually tried further up too, after Montana Ford. Lasted only for a short time though :(

It is a nice place, quiet, nice surrounding. Quite relaxing!

I'm kinda convinced there is a way to launch from there and "glitch" through the bridge like you can in Rio Bravo but I've never made it. Shows what kind of optimist I am!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on October 24, 2011, 04:16:37 AM
which bridge? Dixon's Crossing? Hope it works, good reason to keep boating ;)
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Post by: Subovon on October 24, 2011, 05:19:50 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='510093' dateline='1319444197'
which bridge? Dixon's Crossing? Hope it works, good reason to keep boating ;)

No, the big bridge at Tanner's Span. It's near impossible to launch above it and survive. Although, I was once able to dump the stagecoach and jump onto it. Making is is pretty much miraculous and then you sit up against the bridge for however long you can stand it. Way too much trouble for nothing.

Facepalm.

Who needs a reason to get on a boat?
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on October 25, 2011, 01:55:06 AM
ah Tanner's Span. Never had any luck there...
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on October 26, 2011, 01:18:32 AM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='510588' dateline='1319522106'

ah Tanner's Span. Never had any luck there...


No, it's not believable. Ultimately, I launch from 2 sites, most often: Thieves' Landing and Beacher's Hope. Nice rides, gorgeous scenery.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: nathowen on October 26, 2011, 09:14:05 AM
Thanks for this, I really enjoy stagecoach boating!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on October 26, 2011, 09:17:04 AM
ah Lew2hig's brother right?
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: nathowen on October 26, 2011, 12:05:51 PM
Yep! How's your boating trips been?
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Post by: VMB-TAN on October 26, 2011, 12:15:23 PM
mine have been great, and without dynamite ;)
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Post by: nathowen on October 26, 2011, 12:18:27 PM
Great! When me and lew2hig come back from our current holiday, fancy a boat down Great Plains? Or we could just have a trip around every boating hotspot on the map!

Oh, and lew2hig told me to ask you to teach him 'rooftop chilling'.

Cheers!
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Post by: VMB-TAN on October 26, 2011, 12:24:03 PM
sure we can have a go, but keep the dynamite away please :) we can do some rooftop chilling afterwards ;) when we are dry again...
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Post by: nathowen on October 26, 2011, 12:26:14 PM
Hey it'd be cool if you captured one of our journeys, and you could edit and make one of those cool videos you do. That'd be cool :D
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on October 26, 2011, 01:02:24 PM
I can make a vid, depends on how it goes ;)
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Post by: nathowen on October 26, 2011, 03:25:52 PM
Oh great! PM me or lew if you've got any specific ideas! Sorry for the late reply, we went out to eat tonight. :)
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on October 26, 2011, 05:15:47 PM
Any ideas? Just read this thread ;) We see eachother around sooner or later.
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Post by: Subovon on October 26, 2011, 08:04:37 PM
Quote from: 'nathowen' pid='511461' dateline='1319634845'

Thanks for this, I really enjoy stagecoach boating!


You're most welcome, friend. I think the record attempts showed that getting together to go boating is a great plan even among complete strangers. I'd love to be part of a smaller crew out to just go floating down the river. My best outings have always been with 2 - 6 people.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on October 27, 2011, 01:47:38 AM
you and me still need to have a go sometime :) i wanna sail with the real Captain!
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Post by: lew2hig on October 27, 2011, 07:35:27 AM
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Quote from: 'nathowen' pid='511461' dateline='1319634845'

Thanks for this, I really enjoy stagecoach boating!


You're most welcome, friend. I think the record attempts showed that getting together to go boating is a great plan even among complete strangers. I'd love to be part of a smaller crew out to just go floating down the river. My best outings have always been with 2 - 6 people.


Are you on PS3? I'd to love to go on a boating trip with you, nathowen (THE_STONE_THROWA), VMB_TAN and I! Would be really cool!
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on October 27, 2011, 07:28:15 PM
Quote from: 'VMB-TAN' pid='511909' dateline='1319694458'

you and me still need to have a go sometime :) i wanna sail with the real Captain!


We must make this happen. I'm gonna be around this weekend. I'm in Texas time. How about you? Wanna try for Sunday later afternoon or in the evening?

Also, I've made an update to the OP and gave you proper credit for your contributions. Thanks a lot. You and BlackMetalDevil really helped me bring this thing together. I do believe what we have here is a pretty definitive guide. And to think I'd called it that as a joke on how incomplete I felt it would always be!

Anyway, look it over and let me know if you have any suggestions. I'm thinking that we've pretty much earned a PhD in this subject.
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Post by: VMB-TAN on October 28, 2011, 01:57:26 AM
wow, i'm blushing :) thanks a lot, nice guide!
I'm still laughing when I read that you should have packed a sandwich :D

i'm online this weekend (timezone Amsterdam) here's hoping we see eachother!
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Post by: Subovon on October 28, 2011, 08:03:06 PM
I'll be looking for 'ya. I'm not going anywhere, either. Not even Battlefield can make me loose interest in The Western.
Title: RE: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on November 09, 2011, 05:40:10 PM
Moved house, been battling to get the internet back on (Fuck you Telstra you incompetent cockpuppets) Ps3 stopped reading games. I had to send my PS3 off for repairs, did a back-up, bought a new PS3 to play until my old one gets back but the Red Dead save doesn't work as it was made with a "different user". (different PS3).

So, I started a new game and was trying to unlock all the areas quickly by trying to get to tall trees area by crossing the shallow water near where all the beavers are....but the water is too high.

I don't know when it happens but at the start of the game before you unlock West Elizabeth area the water is deeper from the waterfall all the way to Dixon's crossing. New boating opportunities!! I had a few attempts at different areas and am able to make it further than usual, I am still trying different spots, the ones I have tried have worked better than normal coz the water is deeper and the stagecoach doesn't get snagged on the rocks.

This is a way to go further than we have previously been able to go due to shallow water or rocks that you cannot get past. I'll keep trying a few more spots, if anyone wants to try you gotta do the Marshall's first mission in Armadillo so the stagecoach becomes available, its the 2nd or 3rd mission in the game so you would have to make a new save game and power through those first couple of missions to get to it. Worth a go for any boaters who know all the regular spots.
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Post by: VMB-TAN on November 10, 2011, 01:50:00 AM
ha BMP, good to see you again :)
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Post by: stevethetree on November 12, 2011, 11:58:14 AM
^^That's GENIUS.
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Post by: BlackMetalDevil on November 13, 2011, 06:31:04 PM
Record attempt #4. Express interest at this thread "The unofficial rafting record attempt".
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Post by: Subovon on January 26, 2012, 11:07:40 PM
Well folks, I've been away for a long time and that was after this site was away for a long time. I've missed you good people and methinks y'all haven't been boating in a long time. There will be another attempt at the unofficial boating record. We're aiming for 16 players on 16 coaches. Nuttin' less will do. It's happening on Friday January 27th at 10 PM GMT. Let the good people know you'd like to be a part of river-raftin' hysteria on this thread.

http://www.reddead.net/forums/index.php/topic,21528.500.html (http://www.reddead.net/forums/index.php/topic,21528.500.html)
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on January 27, 2012, 01:53:21 AM
we had some problems last try... Don't mention it ;) we're going for it tonight!
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Post by: Subovon on January 27, 2012, 05:05:53 PM
Well it's on and we already have a great bunch of folks in the chat room. If there are any stragglers on the forum, consider this your reminder-invitation.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on February 07, 2012, 06:29:38 AM
I just sailed from Thieves Landing all the way down to over the waterfalls!
Then I went from Brittlebrush Trawl to Ramita de la Baya.
How? I'm glad you asked :)
*Note: This only works in single player.
The "spawn a stagecoach" cheat.
Enter 'NOW WHO PUT THAT THERE?' in the cheat menu (this will disable all trophies & achievements so use a spare save slot when using this).
Next, grab a stagecoach from a guy who has the '!' in towns, get him to take you to your favorite boating spot, steal his stagecoach and launch as normal.
When you get stuck - aim your gun where you want a wagon to spawn (somewhere behind you where it will nudge you forward past whatever you are stuck on), press start while still aiming then activate the cheat to spawn a wagon, unpause the game and watch a wagon drop and free you from your sticky situation!
Be careful where you spawn it though as it can land on top of you and knock you into the water (you can also spawn them underneath your stagecoach for extreme situations).
I mainly aim at the corners or sides of the stagecoach to get a gentle nudge but occasionally you will need to risk it and drop it closer. After a few tries you will get the hang of it and be able to pin-point the drops.
This will allow us all to explore more of the rivers in Red Dead and give access to a lot of fun rapids we could rarely get to before.
Have fun people!!!
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on February 14, 2012, 12:10:17 PM
Single player has more potential for succes, but I rather play MP ;)

Horseback Boating Tutorial :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMomyd0z6BM
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on February 14, 2012, 10:34:26 PM
That is awesome. I need to add this vid to the guide. Great job, buddy. You make it look super easy and uh... well it reminds me that I'm not very good at doing tricky stuff!
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on February 15, 2012, 04:25:45 PM
next time we're boating your horse is coming with you (nod)
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: aFinn on February 16, 2012, 01:36:16 PM
Horseback Boating Tutorial :D

I just this this. The wagon takes a much wider route than stagecoach it would seem.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on February 16, 2012, 02:04:21 PM
the wagon can go so wide, you'll reach land :)
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: aFinn on February 16, 2012, 03:14:30 PM
Yeah, I noticed, but didn't try to jump this time. I'll try next time if I do this.  :) Thanks VMB.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on February 16, 2012, 04:51:59 PM
I hope I get some recruits for next time we're boating :D
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on February 21, 2012, 07:06:33 PM
Horseback Boating over Manteca Falls.
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6167/photo0899.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/196/photo0899.jpg/)


Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on February 22, 2012, 04:59:20 PM
 8) very nice (thumbsup2)
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: stevethetree on February 22, 2012, 07:22:00 PM
^That is epic. And I never use the word epic.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on February 23, 2012, 01:21:36 AM
Wow.

I went into the game tonight for the first time in a couple of months and boy was I rusty! But epic is what it was. Hunted bounties, got into some gang matches... this picture embodies what I love so much about the game. Even in its twilight and as I slowly move onto other things, it still holds its grip on me.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Butcherbunny on February 29, 2012, 02:40:33 AM
I really want to make it over those falls one day. I thought I'd give BMD's "spawn a stagecoach" trick in single player but I didn't have much luck. I mean it does work, sort of, but even after a bit of practice I still managed to repeatedly knock myself into the drink by spawning the coach in the wrong spot. It must take endless patience to succeed, I gave up.  :'(
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on February 29, 2012, 07:42:24 PM
You might find this helpful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVc5tS0rcTo&context=C3cb199bADOEgsToPDskLZHG2BzeSjYiw3X-C4IC0P

I tried it in single player a couple of times last night and my boat just got stuck. So I'm going to try it in multiplier, as they did, knowing the water differs differently in single and multiplayer. Hell, it behaves differently depending on what part of the story you've saved in...

Anyway, he backs the coach into the water while driving it, glitches and stay on to go over the falls. If I can replicate it, I plan on including this tip in the guide. Maybe he got lucky, though. Let me know if you can make it work for yourself!
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Butcherbunny on February 29, 2012, 08:14:18 PM
Cheers I'll give it a go. MacGyver music, lol!
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: gringo_hunter on March 01, 2012, 02:59:30 AM
You might find this helpful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVc5tS0rcTo&context=C3cb199bADOEgsToPDskLZHG2BzeSjYiw3X-C4IC0P

I tried it in single player a couple of times last night and my boat just got stuck. So I'm going to try it in multiplier, as they did, knowing the water differs differently in single and multiplayer. Hell, it behaves differently depending on what part of the story you've saved in...

Anyway, he backs the coach into the water while driving it, glitches and stay on to go over the falls. If I can replicate it, I plan on including this tip in the guide. Maybe he got lucky, though. Let me know if you can make it work for yourself!

Yeah, that works all the time. I'll show you's on Friday  if you want.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on March 01, 2012, 10:49:33 PM
Yes indeed. If it works all the time, it belongs in the guide.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: aFinn on May 08, 2012, 04:13:57 PM
I would just like to add our record video links in this thread that started it all!

16 boaters in 16 coaches, all in the river at once.

http://www.reddead.net/forums/index.php/topic,21528.msg584398.html#msg584398
and
http://www.reddead.net/forums/index.php/topic,21528.msg580623.html#msg580623


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Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on May 18, 2012, 08:51:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lglqC8AnnGU
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Registration on May 20, 2012, 10:37:13 AM
bump for this threads epicness, and to help any new people who  have not yet experienced the wonders of stage coach boating ;)
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on June 04, 2012, 05:43:37 PM
Well folks, I've made an update to the main post, mostly to add the awesome accomplishment of The United Boaters. If you don't know it, this community set a world record by putting 16 players on 16 floating stagecoaches in the same Free Roam. Check out VMB's awesome film: http://youtu.be/T88vrUCIWik
Special thanks and honors are in order for BlackMetalDevil, a guy from down under who never gives up.

I also fixed some dead links and added without reservations that going over Manteka Falls is possible, doable and a must for everyone. I think that sets an important part of the record straight and I linked VMB's video tutorial which makes it accessible to everyone.

This game ain't dead, yet. I still see plenty of people online when I get a hankering for some gang matches or some messin' around in Free Roam and plenty of us are still getting together for special boating events. Check out the Multiplayer Events section if you want to join in. You'll find us to be damn friendly and pretty farkin' weird.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on June 05, 2012, 01:54:50 AM
damn right Captain (thumbsup2) boaters for life!
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on June 07, 2012, 03:39:00 PM
Nice work on the updates, but... I saw that you spelled my name wrong two times; VBM-TAN? Who's that?! ;)
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on June 07, 2012, 08:58:06 PM
VMB: I've corrected the thread. I'm, uh.... "dysPlexic" or something. Sorry about that. And holly sheets: I didn't mess up twice but thrice. Anyway, thanks for the head's up. The text editor is not the easiest thing to work with and my eyes are old and tired.

Also: I stole a picture you posted on the United Boaters thread and used it as a bookend. I figured you wouldn't mind, right?
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on June 08, 2012, 03:30:33 AM
Offcourse not, they're free to share ;) Old and tired eyes from staring down the river i'll bet (thumbsup2)
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Registration on June 10, 2012, 05:51:45 AM
who was the first person to find out about stage coach boating?
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on June 11, 2012, 12:58:27 AM
I don't think we'll ever find that out. You'll have to look it up but there are some videos of it early on, right after the game's release. I could not have taken long for someone to loose one in the river, see that it kept floating and wanted to get on and figure out how. I mean, some things are just natural. I heard about for the first time in July 2010 and some people already knew most of the good spots.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Barnheezy on July 30, 2012, 03:05:55 PM
Anyone know how to get the stagecoach into PUBLIC free roam???
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on July 30, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
Stagecoach? Gaptooth Breach?
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: aFinn on July 30, 2012, 03:24:56 PM
Maybe he means The Escape stagecoach?
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on July 30, 2012, 03:26:54 PM
If that's the case; the same way as the gatling gun coach as far as I can remember.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Barnheezy on July 30, 2012, 03:52:10 PM
VMB-Tan - I meant the gatling gun stage coach. You gave me advice in the another thread.


Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on July 30, 2012, 04:28:59 PM
aha :)
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Barnheezy on July 30, 2012, 04:50:26 PM
Still no luck with the Gatling gun stage coach. :(
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on December 07, 2012, 08:46:43 PM
I never saw the Gatling coach brought into free roam myself. Eyewitness accounts suggest it's hard to keep it for any length of time. As soon as you get shot off it (which won't take long if you travel near others), it'll likely disappear. And if you take it in the water, it floats low and it's easy to drown.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: DarthMarXman on February 01, 2013, 01:54:51 PM
been boating the past few nights, thanks for all the guides and youtube vids.  its hilarious to get the reaction of people when they see your spot on the map and are like WTF? LOL
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: BlackMetalDevil on February 03, 2013, 05:36:59 PM
The origin of Stagecoach Boating.

I recently deleted all RDR game data to go back to version 1.0 to experience the original unpatched  buggy single player (hoping to get HD footage of bird ppl, cougar man, donkey lady, etc). As soon as I got to the mission in Armadillo when the stagecoach becomes available I took it to the river to get to Blackwater early. After launching the coach I waited for the 'pop', I drowned. I tried again at the always reliable Thieves Landing launch spot, drowned again.

In the unpatched version of the game you can use wagons & coaches to access buildings by shooting the horses and the driver jumps out and through whatever is on the left, houses, Fort Mercer, etc. One of the early patches (not sure if v1.01 or v1.02) fixed it so that if you shoot the horses while you're up against a wall the game will 'pop' you up on top of the drivers seat. The game recognised the water as an object next to the coach and now 'pops' you on the driver seat when you drive into to the water. Stagecoach Boating was born.

The stagecoach still floats in v1.0, so technically boating was possible before the patch to 'pop' you on top but it's true success of popularity came from ease of launching via the 'pop', it allowed even a novice to just drive in and wait to be 'popped' on top for a no hassle boat ride.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on March 15, 2013, 08:44:03 PM
You should post a short video about this on your Youtube channel or maybe even in the Red Dead Wiki just for the hell of it. 

I added your damn useful tip of aiming while driving off cliffs and what not to stay on the stagecoach and go over the waterfall. I think we're just about as close as it is possible to get to having compiled a real, honest to goodness "definitive" guide. And I was kidding at first but I'll be damned... This forum just keeps on going. It's awesome.

I’m not the avid player I used to be but I still take regular RDR vacations from the game I usually play. It was sad to realize there are some game modes that are pretty dead (Stronghold, RIP my love!) but Free Roam is still rockin’ and I’ll be damned if people don’t send me messages to go boating all the time. This thread and the video I made from it have been a constant source of good fun and even if I don’t log in much anymore, this forum is still one of my favorite places on them interwebs. Cheers, gunslingers!
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on March 16, 2013, 08:27:47 AM
Cheers Captain! :)
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Ferguson99 on March 16, 2013, 10:10:39 AM
Lets have those late night stagecoach boating events back :)

ever since that memorable day of breaking the world record no one is interested anymore and we are left to get our kicks in boating sessions with are clan groups........lets get the international boating team assembled again :)

I wanna sit at the stagecoach waiting area and watch that bull go nuts again ;) THE WAITING AREA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vyza0yvSuo) and where I briefly met MR Cels'O before I knew about him and what he does 8)

HAPPY DAYS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyNhv5flnrU)
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Cheddar head7 on March 29, 2013, 06:58:45 AM
I'm not sure if this has been said but me and my friends have been doing a lot of boating recently and we've found that The Old Bacchus Place is a good spot and you get past Butter Bridge :) However, we keep getting stuck after that and we've been trying ways to get further along to go down the waterfall ;)
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on April 04, 2013, 10:25:25 PM
Well, I've never gotten anywhere by going in at Old Bacchus Place. If you want to go over the waterfall, the best method is to drive the coach over the cliff while aiming (from either side of the river) and splash in after Butter Bridge. From there, you’ll go down the waterfall.

Ferguson013:  it'd be fun to have a reunion some time
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on April 05, 2013, 05:43:40 AM
Last few times we did Thieves' Landing, we kept getting stuck near the Old Bacchus' Place. Normally we would go further until underneath the bridge...

A reunion would be cool (thumbsup2)
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: aFinn on April 05, 2013, 06:05:23 AM
Yeah, the old stuck points have changed a bit. Additionally the Ramita de la Baya stuck point just before the bridge is now further away from shore than before so it's hard to push the coach with a horse anymore in there.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on April 26, 2013, 09:23:25 PM
Where you launch is what affects where you get stuck. Going in half a meter to the left or right of one location can mean the difference between getting stuck and going nowhere, hitting a rock half way down the plains or making it all the way to Blackwater.

The only noticeable difference in currents I know of happen when areas unlock in SP during the campaign. I don't remember any of the DLC or patches affecting the currents in FR.

Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Legion on April 26, 2013, 10:56:55 PM
Appreciate when you randomly come back to the forums just to help people with this.

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Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on April 29, 2013, 06:38:38 PM
Just tryin' to keep folks from drowning.

Also, tips keep coming in and I learn new things. Such as this: to guarantee a good long ride all the way to Blackwater, align your wheels with the lines I drew (like a 4 year-old) on this picture:
(http://i.imgur.com/c3SxWmW.jpg)

As I said: deviate a little from this particular set of lines and you get a very different ride - or no ride at all.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: chaztheman7 on September 19, 2013, 04:07:27 PM
many thanks to you and the others on youtube for getting me in the drink, my favorite new pastime. in single player i use the 'now how did that get there?' cheat to spawn wagons in water when stuck, it can help@times. anyways wanted to share my recipe for my STAGECOACH BARS ; when your floating down the river these are sure to hit the mark. bake fudge brownies till about half-baked now add your smashed up oreo cookies, bake more when almost done top with crunch and munch or cracker jacks, you should slightly undercook them so they are moist and chewy. of course other treats could be administered to the batter for wilder rafting! ENJOY AND FLOAT ON!
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Ferguson99 on July 15, 2017, 01:50:23 PM
Here's something random....... random videos of all of scattered across various free roams across both consoles.


The Goodtimes We Had (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=stagecoach+boating+in+RDR)
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Alphapug on September 28, 2017, 01:36:59 PM
If there's stagecoach boating in 2, an added bonus might be in watching fallers-off being eaten by alligators.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 19, 2018, 11:48:22 PM
Don't even tempt us, dude! If there are gators in the new game....

But I think it's set up too far North for that. Maybe we'll get another yeti?
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Alphapug on August 20, 2018, 08:01:23 AM
Gators confirmed.

7:30 mark

Keep an eye out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St6K0c_TJqQ
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Chalk on August 20, 2018, 09:03:04 AM
Gators are 100% confirmed from that gameplay trailer. More importantly it seems that your horse will react to animals like that, and possibly how good your bond with the horse is could result in a better/worse outcome for you and your noble steed.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Mrs Marston on August 20, 2018, 12:37:43 PM
I wonder if gators will be as sneaky and deadly as the cougars were in RDR1? I remember when I first played RDR, hearing a cougar and then in a split second later I was dead.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Ferguson99 on August 20, 2018, 01:18:03 PM
Alligator surfing
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Alphapug on August 20, 2018, 08:19:03 PM
Taking a bit of a tangent, I remember when I lived in Florida as a kid. We had a pond at the back of the neighborhood which was on both sides of the street, connected by a culvert pipe. The kids claimed that there was a gator living in the pipe. I thought they were trying to scare the new kid from the Midwest. Well, my sister and I were fishing one day when a six foot alligator chomped on her bait and bobber. It crunched down a couple times and spit it out. We ran home like greased lightning. I kept the crushed bobber for a while as a reminder of our “close” call. Good times.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 20, 2018, 09:41:53 PM
Gators confirmed.



Gators! I'm so happy....

Gator skins are great boot skins. They'll coast $29.95 in the Outfitter store.  (whip)

They're making me want to buy a console. If / when they announce RDR2 includes the Rockstar Editor, I'm gonna break.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Ferguson99 on August 21, 2018, 01:30:36 PM
Remember the thorny of Stagecoach boating locations...………  there always at the furthest area to where we collect the coach.


so get studying that RDR2 map.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on August 21, 2018, 11:08:12 PM
Remember the thorny of Stagecoach boating locations...………  there always at the furthest area to where we collect the coach.


so get studying that RDR2 map.

I won't need to look for long. Since we're all gonna want to go to the beach to Gator Surf, R* will spawn gators in the damn mountains. So I'll study there. With a coat on.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Craigyroo on August 22, 2018, 07:52:44 AM
I wonder if gators will be as sneaky and deadly as the cougars were in RDR1? I remember when I first played RDR, hearing a cougar and then in a split second later I was dead.

Unless we can run over them like* James Bond I'm not interested...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/y5PZQWgh6KZ0Y/giphy.gif)

* ok more like the  clumsy stunt double...
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on October 20, 2018, 09:47:38 PM
Folks,

In less than a week, I feel pretty damn sure that RDR2 is going give our characters the ability to swim and... real boats. All y'all who commented on this thread are about to be made as obsolete as I am! And I don't mean to speak for anyone else but I'm ready to stop sacrificing hordes of horses just to float down Thieves Landing (and shoot all the oil lamps!).

Like the old savage outlaws we're looking forward to play in RDR2, our time has come and gone but I'm damn proud of us all, you wonderful people! This whole stagecoach boating thing... nothing digital has even been so fun for me.

Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: silebyboy on October 21, 2018, 05:38:27 AM
Being able to swim and having real boats doesn’t need to spell the end of stagecoach boating though. We can keep this party going.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on October 21, 2018, 11:11:45 PM
No doubt. I'm replaying RDR on the XBox One X and it's like the PC port we never got. It's beautiful! I'll always come back to it and the first thing I do in RDR2 when I see a stagecoach will be to drive into a river.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Mrs Marston on October 22, 2018, 02:32:15 PM
the first thing I do in RDR2 when I see a stagecoach will be to drive into a river.

You know, we are all going to at least try it!  LOL!  Would love to see everyone's reactions if we can actually get it to work!
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Ferguson99 on October 27, 2018, 03:10:21 PM
As anyone attempted this yet?

Dakota River is a No!! I think...… maybe Flat Iron Lake you can float across in a coach.
Other then that, the original part of the map.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on October 28, 2018, 04:52:22 AM
No one tried yet?

Do coaches actually float? There will be disappointment if they don't.
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Subovon on November 04, 2018, 06:03:42 PM
No one tried yet?

Do coaches actually float? There will be disappointment if they don't.

I don't know if they float yet because all the rivers I've found are shallow enough that the horses can pull the stagecoach through the water. This causes the stagecoach to be damaged and then the horses detach and run off. The game prompts you that the coaches is too damaged to keep going so this may add an interesting mechanic to rafting.

This is as deep a river I've found yet but I'm still in Chapter 2 and moving slowly.

(https://imgur.com/01FIR6r.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/vtkZI2h.jpg)

Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: VMB-TAN on November 05, 2018, 02:54:49 AM
Well, it's a start...
Title: Re: The Definitive Guide to Stagecoach Boating in Red Dead Redemption
Post by: Ferguson99 on November 05, 2018, 01:12:05 PM
I think the Coaches will still float, in the Original locations. 

Thieves Landing
San Luis River