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Title: What American's Believe
Post by: Valjean on February 11, 2013, 06:24:11 PM
Read a poll that I found interesting so thought I'd put the main results here.  It was done of 500 landline phone users, 500 cell phone users by Princeton Survey Research Associates.  These are the summary of the findings:

- Obama Approval rating                                52%
- Congress Approval rating                            17%
- Federal Spending                                         Too much: 74%
- Should the gov't  increase taxes                  Net 65% oppose, 33% support.
- Should the gov't reduce spending                Net 85% support
- Should Congress raise the debt ceiling?       64% should not raise
- Over the past 20 years what effect
   has increased gov't spending had on your
   quality of life?                                               17% it has improved quality of life, 40% reduced quality of life, 39% I dunno
- Which do you think is most important for
  technological innovation?                               66% private sector, 33% government
- What should be the government's reaction
  to the school shooting in Newtown?              16% stronger gun control.  21% nothing.  20% security at schools. 
                                                                         12% better mental health services.  Ban assault weapons 9%.  Ban all guns 1%
- What do you think most could have
  prevented the Newtown shooting?               24% better mental health treatment.  19% stricter gun control. 18% better parenting.
                                                                        17% armed guards at school.  10% less violent video games.
- Do you agree with President Obama's
  gun control plan?                                            7% agree.
- If the federal assault weapon ban had not
  expired in 2004 would it have prevented
  the Newtown shooting?                                  67% no, 27% yes.
- What political party do you consider self?      22% Republican.  36% Democrat.  32% Independent. 
- To Independents what party do you lean
  more towards?                                                30% Republican.  35% Democrat.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Casteyn on February 11, 2013, 06:30:32 PM
Interesting results. I see video games made an appearance. Oh those violent video games! Maybe mom and dad should teach their kids the difference between fantasy and reality, that usually helps some.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Valjean on February 11, 2013, 06:33:02 PM
PS - the survey was a lot longer than that.  I didn't bother typing the questions that were pretty much tied answers like: should there be less government, more or the same?  (47% less, 46% more). 
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Cheese on February 11, 2013, 06:35:05 PM
You mean what 1000 phone owning Americans believe.    (seedy)
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Valjean on February 11, 2013, 06:39:00 PM
well they didn't call me :( but margin of error +/-3.8%

But actually I don't think I'd know what to do with telemarkers calling my cell phone.  Probably have an expression about like this:

(http://seldo.com/pictures/Blogged/gecko.gif)


Followed by this:

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Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Cheese on February 11, 2013, 06:40:23 PM
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Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Legion on February 11, 2013, 07:32:52 PM
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Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Ucah8er on February 12, 2013, 06:03:31 AM
- Do you agree with President Obama's
  gun control plan?                                            7% agree.

Meanwhile at the obama office

(http://i.imgur.com/SRBOyKb.gif)
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Valjean on February 12, 2013, 07:27:43 AM
- Do you agree with President Obama's
  gun control plan?                                            7% agree.

Meanwhile at the obama office

(http://i.imgur.com/SRBOyKb.gif)

Ha, I'd just be happy I didn't have Congresses approval rating.  There were a bunch of other questions about approval I left out but they were all basically 50/50 splits on how people view the President but about 75% negative on Congress.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Legion on February 12, 2013, 04:00:46 PM
A lot of it is about gun laws.

American's believe in McDonalds, Beer, Guns, and Mel Gibson. Enough said.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Valjean on February 12, 2013, 04:13:15 PM
A lot of it is about gun laws.

American's believe in McDonalds, Beer, Guns, and Mel Gibson. Enough said.

There was a bunch of shit I left out that didn't really have any forum conversation value like what 1 word would you use to describe congress (insert list of 25 words of various weights), what should be obama's focus for 2nd term (insert list of 10 areas), what areas does the gov't spend too much money on (insert long list of random complaints), what do you think will happen if congress doesn't raise the national debt, yadda yadda.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: rdeyd1 573 on February 12, 2013, 06:54:05 PM
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2013/02/12/5-things-americans-shouldnt-take-for-granted-n1510351/page/full/ 8)
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: the GUN runnerr on February 12, 2013, 07:53:39 PM
On the independent leaning toward the two parties, did the other 35% do something very upsetting to the poll board?
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Valjean on February 12, 2013, 08:11:37 PM
On the independent leaning toward the two parties, did the other 35% do something very upsetting to the poll board?

Independent / Don't lean to either party 20%
Don't Know / Refused to Answer 13%
Other party 1%
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: the GUN runnerr on February 12, 2013, 08:20:48 PM
Fuckin lazy ass independent bitch fucks.  Wait, Im an indipendent, but I do depend on the other independents to be dependent on another party.....just not me
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Nugget on February 12, 2013, 09:11:52 PM
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2013/02/12/5-things-americans-shouldnt-take-for-granted-n1510351/page/full/ 8)

You know a site is bullshit when the minute you open it popups fly onto your screen.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: godzilliac on February 14, 2013, 08:35:24 AM
Quote
16% stronger gun control.  21% nothing.  20% security at schools.
           12% better mental health services.  Ban assault weapons 9%.  Ban all guns 1%

           24% better mental health treatment.  19% stricter gun control. 18% better parenting.
           17% armed guards at school.  10% less violent video games.

Interesting to observe how government inertia comes out a winner when asked what the government should have done yet most responders believe that better mental health care could have prevented the drama in Connecticut.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Valjean on February 14, 2013, 10:28:56 AM
^ Actually when I first wrote the response I was only going to include the 16% gun control since that was the topic, then I came back and filled in the other major responses and their percentages, that's why they're out of order. 

Also, a secondary update, I hear Bill Gates has funded a new Super PAC to lobby to have the 10% who responded "violent video games" deported.  (seedy)
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Legion on February 14, 2013, 04:05:20 PM
Nothing wrong with being independent considering both parties are made of bullshit anyway, and contradict their ideals every so century.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: rdeyd1 573 on February 27, 2013, 07:16:32 AM
http://townhall.com/columnists/jacobsullum/2013/02/27/where-does-a-cop-with-an-80pound-dog-search-anywhere-he-wants-n1521005/page/full/
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Valjean on February 27, 2013, 07:34:43 AM
Yeah I heard about that man.  Its funny because the week before the Supreme Court had ruled against expanded police power in another case, then they rule favorably on this one.  The other case they ruled that police couldn't detain people just anywhere.  It was a case of a guy who the police had a search warrant on his home, and as part of it arrested him where he was at.  The court ruled that the search warrant only applied to the place being searched and was not a blanket warrant to search anywhere imaginable. 

Then right after that the rule in favor of expanded police powers in this area.... Just seems very.... inconsistent.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: rdeyd1 573 on March 12, 2013, 07:30:08 PM
I am just amazed at the cops and guys like this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gavin-shulman/the-deficit-why-we-should_b_2836835.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&ir=Politics
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Valjean on March 12, 2013, 08:07:27 PM
I am just amazed at the cops and guys like this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gavin-shulman/the-deficit-why-we-should_b_2836835.html?utm_hp_ref=politics&ir=Politics

Because people don't see how the debt actually effects their lives.  Its same as what i wrote a few days ago about how no one shows up in DC to protest a job they could have had that never came into existence due to minimum wages.  the deficit is the same.

Once a country's deficit reaches 90 percent of GDP the economy grows 1% slower every year.  In America or debt is presently 99% of GDP.  That's a difference of 1.5 million lost jobs every year.  Not total.  Every year over a million jobs are never going too exist due to our debt.  That would solve the jobs crisis real quick wouldn't it?
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: rdeyd1 573 on March 12, 2013, 08:21:46 PM
It's like there is no acountabilty or responsabilty for enything, few years back I watched a report on the easy bankruptcy laws, it's no wounder we have dipshits running amock.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: booshthelurker on March 13, 2013, 01:02:33 AM
You guys really can't see that post was sarcasm from beginning to end? WOW
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: rdeyd1 573 on March 13, 2013, 06:36:25 AM
Really? Then why wasn't it labled as satyr? How am I supposed to know the diff. They have never given me eny reason to believe that this wasn't what the whole liberal movement believes or enyone in gov. for that matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLTTX35LNJo

Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Cheese on March 13, 2013, 07:58:26 AM
They have never given me eny reason to believe that this wasn't what the whole liberal movement believes or enyone in gov. for that matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLTTX35LNJo



Are you basing your beliefs of one vague system on one article?
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: rdeyd1 573 on March 13, 2013, 08:35:19 PM
Ya thats right all my beliefes are based on one thing I pick out at random.
I have had no personal life experiances so I just belive everything I read on the web.  So bonjour.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Valjean on March 13, 2013, 08:52:46 PM
Let's all address peoples ideas not critique the forum member themselves please.  It only makes us all respond defensively then things go down hill.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Cheese on March 13, 2013, 09:03:20 PM
It was a legitimate question, but yea I agree. I'm sorry. Carry on.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: rdeyd1 573 on March 13, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
I am not offended, I'm just feeling a little snappy.

I'm watching the southpark Obama/ Mckain epasode killing me!
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: booshthelurker on March 14, 2013, 05:32:26 AM
Really? Then why wasn't it labled as satyr? How am I supposed to know the diff. They have never given me eny reason to believe that this wasn't what the whole liberal movement believes or enyone in gov. for that matter.

Yeah man I didn't mean my comment as an attack. I genuinely thought it was obvious it was not for real, but I was wrong. You're correct it wasn't labeled satire or sarcasm.

Sorry about that, but... well, I find it hard to believe that you know so little about the ideals or beliefs of a group you are totally confident are wrong. Do you see what I'm saying? To be clear I believe that your political beliefs are totally valid for you and I applaud you for having such faith in them. However, I refuse to believe you have such little knowledge of liberals as you claim here. Further more who even said that article was representing a liberal viewpoint?

That said I still apologize for causing you to feel the need to go on the defensive despite that not being my intention. 

Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: rdeyd1 573 on March 14, 2013, 06:34:41 AM
I think I am just fed up with the whole situation, it just amazes me at the lack of commen sense in our leaders and it scares me at what leangths dogooders will go to make everyone all fuzzy.

Sorry guys I always post before I go to work so not much time to dig up some shit and read everything and watch news drink coffee you know.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: rdeyd1 573 on December 02, 2013, 05:37:15 PM
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2013/02/16/15-things-that-are-not-okay-for-liberals-to-do-n1513772/page/full
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Legion on December 04, 2013, 02:00:02 PM
Tell you what they believe in, capitalist dog.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: rdeyd1 573 on December 09, 2013, 05:44:35 PM
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/12/09/atf-ruins-the-lives-of-teenagers-to-solve-a-problem-the-agency-created-n1760016?utm_source=TopBreakingNewsCarousel&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=BreakingNewsCarousel
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Cheese on December 09, 2013, 05:46:16 PM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/gop-announces-plan-to-go-after-obamacare,34300/
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: convex airplane on December 09, 2013, 11:04:21 PM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/god-admits-he-never-created-gerbils,34782/
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: rdeyd1 573 on December 10, 2013, 05:23:09 PM
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20131210/st-george/nypd-beat-family-killed-pet-parakeet-during-raid-lawsuit-says
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: Legion on December 11, 2013, 03:15:38 AM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/god-admits-he-never-created-gerbils,34782/

Should have known the gerbil race was a bunch of blasphemous sinning devil worshipping HEATHENS.
Title: Re: What American's Believe
Post by: DethPimp on December 11, 2013, 05:12:06 AM
http://www.theonion.com/articles/god-admits-he-never-created-gerbils,34782/

Should have known the gerbil race was a bunch of blasphemous sinning devil worshipping HEATHENS.

gerbils are an inside job. Ask Richard Gere ...

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/celebrities/a/richard_gere.htm